MSTI.com's 2007 In Review: Right Field

O.K., first thing of note: no, this feature didn’t die. Another thing to note: I haven’t died either, just life caused a delay or twenty, but I am back and ready to tackle right field!

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(.284/.350/.452, 13 HR’s, 64 RBI’s)

2007 Recap: O.K., so we all remember when Ethier came up in May of 2006 against the Diamondbacks, he went off on a tear that lasted for three months and was the key cog in the Dodgers’ offense. In fact, from when he came up in early May until the All-Star break, his stat line was the following: .352/.403/.545. I mean, he really just came out of nowhere, and played solid defense to go with it.

Alas, as the second half began, his numbers began to dive and then in September, he lost his starting job to Marlon Anderson. His September decline was sharp and left many skeptics wondering how he’d do for 2007, but many people forget just how horribly he was handled. During the second half, Ethier ended up getting Grady’d and went through the Russell Martin treatment: he would be sent out there almost daily. To demonstrate this, here is a monthly total of the games he started: May = 18, June = 14, July = 25, August = 27. Oh yeah, that also included a stretch of playing every single inning of every single game from August 15th-September 7th. Hmm… first year player, no days off, late in the season, even admitting that he is mentally drained, and also battled a reported shoulder injury on August 10th on a diving catch… whatever caused that decline?!

But fret not, Ned had a solution to this. After Andre’s top 5 finish in the Rookie Of The Year voting, back in the deep, dark secretive Dodgers front office in Los Angeles, Ned says: “You know, that Andre kid really needs some rest. So you know what I’ll do? I’m going to run him out of a starting job and replace him with an older, more expensive Gonzo!”

Ethier then wound up platooning with Matt Kemp until the right field wall said: “eat that, motherfucker!” and knocked Kemp out. But while Ethier got the starting right field job back, he failed to capitalize for the first two months, hitting .250/.282/.458 in April, and .289/.333/.378 in May. Just being entirely observational, after hearing that he felt that the Dodgers maybe didn’t want him after his late 2006 collapse, it seemed the lack of stable playing time might have made him press a bit more. Compounding the problem was, by his admission, the lack of communication between him and then-hitting coach Eddie Murray, but this was fixed once Bill Mueller stepped in and then Andre really took off. He hit .286/.405/.443 in June and was just flat out insane in July, hitting a massive .383/.471/.550. Alas, in August and September, he nosedived again, hitting .268/.315/.488 in August and .247/.317/.425 in September.

So, it was kind of a bipolar type of year. Had a tough start, then had two REALLY awesome months and then started to fade again. However, despite some of the down months, he was still able to rank 4th (only counting players that are qualified enough in AB’s, which means bye bye Loney and Kemp) in BA, OBP, 3rd in SLG%, OPS, OPS+, 2nd in WPA and 1st in getting screwed over by your manager and having to hit eighth in the lineup, which brings me to one of the things that pissed me off the most this past season. Yeah, for the first half of the season, it was hard to complain about Gonzo’s production: he produced, can’t argue that. But once he predictably regressed, Ethier took off, and should have become the starting left fielder. After all, who has the better chance of improving or at least has the better chance of being the better player in the long run: a 25 year old who is already putting up comparable numbers or a declining 40 year old? Instead, Grady kept sending out Gonzo, and, for it, wasted the tear that Ethier was on. For crying out loud…

July 2007 Stats:

Gonzo: .256/.287/.317

Games started: 21

Ethier: .383/.471/.550

Games started: 13

Yeah… what the fuck?

And even despite the dive Ethier had at the end of the season…

Ethier 2nd Half Stats:

.286/.354/.472

Gonzo 2nd Half Stats:

.251/.316/.368

I settled on the B+ because his year wasn’t in the Loney, Kemp or Martin mold of awesomeness, but it wasn’t bad either. Going into this year, there were still many who weren’t sure what to expect after the September 2006 collapse. But after the slow start, he avoided the sophomore slump and showed that he is still very much a competent hitter and was the lone arm in the Dodgers’ outfield. If I had one word to describe him, I would say dependable. He is probably not the type of guy who will get the most attention, but a good hitter he is. I’ve always enjoyed watching his ability to work the count and show a patience at the plate, something sorely lacking from the 2007 lineup, and his hitting mechanics are very smooth. Of course, it was also pretty nice to see him come through many times throughout the season, as alluded to earlier with the WPA ranking.

2008 Recap: As some know in various parts, Ethier is my favorite Dodger; I mean, he’s a good hitter, and probably the best outfielder we had defensively last year… no, check that, clearly the best outfielder we had defensively. However, out of all the kids, I see his ceiling probably being the lowest. That’s not to say his ceiling isn’t high, but just not the superstar levels of a Loney, Martin, Thunder Thighs or Kemp. Because of this, that makes him the most tradeable this winter for the big bat, but don’t underestimate him either. If he can get regular playing time, and not have to 1. be benched after getting 3 hits and 2. not having to hit eighth to get those hits, I can see him having a better year with a line of around, say, .285/.360/.460 with around 20 HR’s or so. Consider that he’s still 25, only making the league minimum, there’s virtually no need for a Jones, Hunter or Rowand, etc. in what would be an arguable marginal improvement for a gazillion dollars more.

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Matt Kemp = A

(.342/.373/.521, 10 HR’s, 42 RBI’s)

2007 Recap: After expecting to start the season in Triple-A due to 1. his awful spring and 2. needing A LOT more seasoning after pitcher’s figured him out in 2006 and made him look like Adrian Beltre with a good ankle, Kemp displayed that glimpse of power towards the final week of Spring Training. Once remembering that 2/3 of their outfield was named Luis Gonzalez and Juan Pierre, his power was good enough to land him in what was expected to be a platoon with Andre Ethier.

Well… at least, until…

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“PLEASE DON’T LET ME HIT THE WALL, PLEASE…

(crash)

OH SHIT, GRADY WILL NEVER GIVE ME MY JOB BACK!”

Missing time, Kemp lost his roster spot and got sent back to Triple-A, before coming back in June. But once he came back, Kemp quickly established himself as one of the go to guys on the team, hitting a cool .383/.420/.468 during that month. In fact, after suffering the Ethier treatment of having to hit low in the order – and that’s IF he played! – he eventually moved up to the 3rd spot, which actually wasn’t a bad idea considering he would be far more protected with Kent after him, although terrible for it made me really mix up their names a lot during broadcasts. Since Kemp only racked up 292 AB’s, let’s see how he did relative to his teammates with at least 250 AB’s. Based on that, Kemp ranked 1st in BA, 4th in OBP, VORP, 2nd in SLG%, OPS, OPS+ It’s very safe to say that, once players like Ethier, and even to an extent Martin, started to fade a bit towards the end, it was Kemp and Loney (and Kent) who mostly carried the team’s offense. The beauty of having Kemp in the lineup was also the fact that he was able to provide the team with another power threat, something very, very rare in those parts.

Unless you work for the L.A. Times, it’s just really hard not to be amazed by Matt Kemp. He is a five tool player that has superstar all over him. Really, when he hits, he makes it look so effortless and he has incredible power. One thing that also really surprises me about Kemp, due to his size, has always been his speed; the dude can fly and is without a doubt one of the fastest players on the team.

So after all these glowing compliments, why didn’t he get the A+ and just a measely A? You can probably blame James Loney and Russell Martin for that. After seeing them come up looking so polished, as if they had been playing for years, that’s the standard when I think of A+ grades. Kemp, on the other hand, despite his scary talent – he probably has the highest ceiling out of everyone – still has a ways to go. Defensively, he subscribes to the Jason Repko philosophy of fielding and takes terrible routes to balls, and offensively, while he can crush a mistake, still can be easily fooled with breaking balls, though he has improved on that a lot from 2006. Finally, yes, there is the base running, which became flat out comical at times with getting thrown out and running through stop signs. I was always waiting for Donnelly to go out there with a “STOP!” or “GO!” sign that he would hold up whenever Kemp would be running towards third… or maybe even a signal. Because of these things, he still has some growing up to do, but it’s also important to remember that he has been playing professional baseball for less than five years. In many ways, with his hitting prowlness and issues defensively and on the basepaths, he does remind me of a young Manny Ramirez.

2008 Outlook: On a hit to the gap, Kemp runs through the sign at third only to get clotheslined and piledrived by Larry Bowa.

O.K., seriously… if Kemp gets the rightful starting position at right field, I can only expect him to further grow as a player. With regular playing time, I could easily envision somewhere around a .290/.360/.500 line, maybe with around 20-25 HR’s or so. And if he can put up anything remotely close to that, that’s all the more reason not to trade him. It makes no sense to trade his production, as well as the production of several other kids to Florida for Miguel Cabrera… or anyone. Yeah, he’d be AWESOME at the plate, and he’d net you 30-35 HR’s and a lot of other Godly numbers, but if the rumors of Kemp, Loney, Billingsley and Kershaw are the price, then you just traded away two hitters with the potential to hit at least 20-25 HR’s a piece as early as next season. Not to mention that you now have holes at other positions. The costs simply outweigh the benefits (and outweighing Miguel Cabrera is not an easy thing to do) and if the rapid progression of Kemp from 2006 to 2007 is any indication for next year… then 2008 should be a really fun year.

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It's Crazy Rumor Round-Up Time!

Holy Christ, are there some awful rumors floating around. A LOT of them, actually, and unfortunately they all make me feel as ill as the thought of a Roseanne/Rosie O’Donnell/Barbaro threesome. And that’s not even considering any of the Alex Rodriguez rigamarole. Where to start?

First we’ve got the ongoing Miguel Cabrera rumors. Now, the Miggy talk is something we’ve already discussed on here, and basically I felt that because the cost would be so exhorbinant, we might as well just stick with Andy LaRoche, who as you may have heard is raking in winter ball. But it was interesting none the less to think of what exactly it’d take to get him. Obviously, he wouldn’t come cheap. But I didn’t think it’d take roughly the gross domestic product of Canada, which is what the Palm Beach Post has to say:

The Dodgers would have to give up four players from a group that includes pitcher Chad Billingsley, pitching prospect Clayton Kershaw, third baseman Andy La Roche, first baseman James Loney and outfielder Matt Kemp. The Dodgers probably would balk at giving both Billingsley and Kershaw in the same deal because it would hurt the organization’s pitching depth.

Four! Is the Palm Beach Post on the Marlins’ payroll? First of all, Clayton Kershaw has to be off the table in a deal for any player. By every single account, he is the best pitching prospect in the minors, and could be ready as soon as the end of next season. You do not give those guys away. But even without him, Billingsley, LaRoche, Loney, AND Kemp? I’m having a hard time even rationally discussing this due to howcramer.jpg incomprehensibly ridiculous the thought is. You can include ONE of that group, and then some second-level guys like Andre Ethier, James McDonald, etc. Guys who would be top-level talent in organizations not as deep as the Dodgers.

You know what? Let’s just move on from that. My brain can’t handle this mind-blowing stupidity.

Speaking of mind-blowing stupidity, Tim Krasovic of the San Diego Union-Tribune, come on down! You’re the next contestant on “The Price Is In No Way Going to Be Right!”

Responding to Colletti’s preference for veterans, the Padres are contemplating three-team trade scenarios that would bring them young Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp.

Oh really? Are they? What could the Padres possibly have in mind that would convince Colletti to trade Kemp to a main rival? Jake Peavy, certainly, but I can’t see any scenario in which that happens. I know it says “three-team trade”, so some other team would be sending us the return for Kemp, but still; it’s not like we wouldn’t know where he’d be going. I can’t imagine that Colletti would willingly deal Kemp knowing that he’d just end up right down the road in San Diego, helping that horrible sand-colored team that always seems to have our number.

Moving on to our favorite FOX Sports midget, Ken Rosenthal! Ken, what wild story have you dreamed up today? Perhaps Jorge Posada to push Russell Martin to the bench? Maybe convincing Darren Dreifort to come out of retirement?

The signing of Hunter would force Pierre to left field, with Kemp and/or Ethier in right. Hunter might not be as dynamic offensively playing his home games at Dodger Stadium. But for the Dodgers, a center fielder who has averaged 30 homers and 103 RBIs the past two seasons would be a modern-day Duke Snider.

It’s almost too obvious.

The Dodgers should sign Hunter.

Ken’s FOX Sports cohort Dayn Perry completely agrees, which sort of makes me wonder if they had some office meeting to decide what sort of rumors they’d start this year.

Juan Pierre is still under contract, but he’s a massive liability for the Dodgers. He’s terrible at the plate and roundly overrated with the glove. Yes, he’s only one year into that deliriously stupid five-year, $44 million contract, but it’s time to treat him as a sunk cost. That means unloading him for whatever you can get (rosin bags, used jocks, canned wine) or relegating him to a reserve role. Playing Pierre on a daily basis will only compound such a bad decision. Throughout baseball last season, only the White Sox endured worse production from center field, so the Dodgers badly need an upgrade. That brings us to Hunter. Defensively Hunter is exceptional, and he’d also provide L.A. with some much-needed power. Hunter’s also more of a known quantity than the other premier center fielder on the market, Andruw Jones.

Well. I hate to say it, because I usually disagree with Dayn Perry on an everyday basis, but those are good points. Then again, when your point is “Juan Pierre sucks”, you don’t exactly have to work overtime to talk me into it.

As for Hunter? I’m sort of indifferent. He doesn’t really excite me. He’s good, but he’s not great. Sure, he’s a fantastic defensive CF, and he’ll get you 20-something homers a year. But he’s already 32, and the thought of giving huge money to a guy for his age 33-36 years – especially when his defense is such a big part of his game, and when the legs go the defense often does too – is a scary thought. Especially when we’ve got outfielders *coughDELWYNYOUNGcough* who can crush the ball but still aren’t getting a chance. I guess I’d say, if Pierre can be dumped, I wouldn’t be adverse to spending some money on Hunter in CF. But I’m firmly against the “Pierre in LF” idea. Just when you thought you couldn’t drop his value any lower.

Let’s wrap this up with one more batshiat-insane rumor! Show me… Mariano Rivera! Who the Yankees have apparently offered 3 years at $15 million per year, making him the highest-paid closer of all time by nearly 30%. Except, Rivera hasn’t jumped at it, for some reason. Why? Well, Ken Rosenthal thinks he has the answer:

The Yankees’ three-year, $45-million offer to free-agent closer Mariano Rivera was more than generous. Rivera’s $15 million average salary would dwarf that of the highest-paid closer, Billy Wagner, who is earning $10.75 million per season.

Rivera, who turns 38 later this month, mentioned possibly joining Joe Torre and the Dodgers to the Associated Press. The Dodgers wouldn’t pay Rivera nearly as much as the Yankees, but the idea that they wouldn’t have interest in him due to the presence of closer Takashi Saito is ridiculous.

Imagine a bullpen anchored by Jonathan Broxton, Saito and Rivera, one of the best closers in the history of the game. The Dodgers wouldn’t need to worry about their rotation as much, would they?

Fact: Mariano Rivera is the best closer of all time.

Fact: His stats show a disturbing downward trend over the last three years, and Takashi Saito was unquestionably better than Rivera in 2007.

Between 2005-07, Rivera’s ERA, WHIP, and, of course, age have all increased. Saito, on the other hand, was dominating. (Sidenote: I don’t think we give Saito enough credit for how good he was in 2007. His WHIP was an otherworldly 0.715. By comparison, the best WHIP Future Hall of Famer Mariano Rivera has ever had? 0.868).

Not that Rivera wouldn’t make a nice addition to the bullpen and all, but A. if he’s turning down $15 million/year from the Yankees, what would he want from us? and B., I would not boot Saito from his role for Rivera. I don’t care who’s the bigger name. Saito is the better pitcher right now. And I can’t see Rivera deigning to be a setup man. Especially since we already have Broxton squarely set in that role.

Well, that was fun. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go curl up in a ball in the corner for fear that any of this might actually go down.

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Maybe We Don't Need To Trade for A-Rod or Cabrera?

In case you haven’t been following Team USA’s exploits in the 2007 IBAF World Cup – and I know you haven’t, I had to look it up just now – there’s been some interesting results from two erstwhile Dodgers prospects – Andy LaRoche and Delwyn Young.

Take today’s (Saturday’s) game, for example. LaRoche and Young, batting 3rd and 4th – despitedelwynyoung_480_111007.jpg the presence of future star Eva(n) Longora of the Rays – almost singlehandedly got USA on the board. LaRoche walks in the first inning, with a man already one, and Delwyn – looking dapper in his USA hat, at right – crushes a ball out of the park for a 3-0 lead.

The reason I bring up Team USA games in whatever god-forsaken tournament they’re is not because of some sense of nationalistic pride. Honestly, I didn’t even know we had a Team USA outside of the Olympics. In what is admittedly a small sample size, our boys LaRoche and Young are both killing the ball.

LaRoche: .333/.368/.556 1 hr, 4 rbi, 1 2b
Young: .524/.524/.810 1 hr, 4 rbi, 3 2b

I don’t want to sound as though I’m completely against trying to acquire A-Rod or Cabrera, because for the right price they’d be sound additions to any lineup. But if the concern over LaRoche was his back, he sure seems like it’s not bothering him. And if the whole point of trying to get A-Rod or Cabrera is to add power.. well, here we have two guys who have done nothing but destroy the minor leagues, didn’t embarrass themselves in short stints in the bigs, and are now feasting on international competition. And would you look at that, LaRoche is even a third baseman. Again, A-Rod and Cabrera are sublime talents.. but for the unbelievable cost in prospects, money, or both it’d take to acquire one of them.. it’s not like we aren’t seeing some pretty good in-house power options here, who’ve done nothing but hit.

Just sayin’, is all.

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Fire Up That Stove!

In Will Carroll’s “Unfiltered” column today on Baseball Prospectus, he discusses the trade rumors surrounding Miguel Cabrera most likely leaving South Florida:

* Alex Rodriguez isn’t headed anywhere yet, but he can cross Miami off his list. He’s not one to give a hometown discount and Jeffrey Loria’s not raising payroll. That means that one of the team’s big two is gone and everyone’s expecting it to be Miguel Cabrera. “He’s at the end of his time at 3B,” the baseball source told me, “but he’s still good enough to play 1B. They won’t get quite as much as [Jon Daniels] did for Mark Teixeira, but they’re looking for a different payoff.” The rumored asking price is three players – one pitcher and position player that are under three years of service time and “solid ink-’em-in guys.” The other would be a “plus prospect, not the best guy on the team, but useful. The Marlins will probably look for a slugger.”

The Dodgers, of course, have been prominently mentioned in going after either Alex Rodriguez (who I’d like to reiterate, I am against not because I don’t think he’s “clutch”, but because of the insane expense and years) or Cabrera to fill both their power deficit and the Nomar-sized hole at 3B.

cabrerax.jpgAnd there’s no question Cabrera can rake. He hasn’t slugged less than .512 in any of his 4 full seasons. I mean, his average stat line is .313/.388/.542 31hr/118rbi. Plus, he’s only 24 – coincidentally, the same age as Andy LaRoche, and as much as I like him, he’s done nothing in the bigs. The issue with Cabrera, though is his weight.. the man likes to eat. A lot.

Anyway, the point of this isn’t to discuss whether Miggy’s a good player – duh – or even if the Dodgers should go after him. The BP piece made me wonder what it would take if the Dodgers did to decide to pursue him.

A. By all accounts he’s not going to be able to play 3B much longer. This would not cure our case of Garciaparritis at 3B – but he’s not going to 1B unless Loney’s part of the deal to the Marlins, and I can’t imagine any of us are in favor of that. Could always put him in the OF if one of the young guys out there are part of the return, though.

B. “Won’t get as much as Texas did for Teixeira”. Texas got a top young C/1B (Salty), a good almost-ready SS (Andrus), and some good but not A+ pitching prospects (Harrison, Feliz, Jones). Transforming that into Dodger prospects, we’d have had to give up, lets say LaRoche (obviously we don’t have a C and Martin’s not going), Hu, McDonald, Elbert, and Orenduff for Teixiera. I’m just winging that, but it seems about the same as what Atlanta gave up. Now, the scout is saying it’d take less than that to get Cabrera, which doesn’t seem awful.

C. It’ll take “three players – one pitcher and position player that are under three years of service time and “solid ink-’em-in guys.” The other would be a “plus prospect, not the best guy on the team, but useful. The Marlins will probably look for a slugger.”

One pitcher and position player under three years of time and are ready-now. Broxton and Kemp? Also, a “prospect, who’s not the best guy on the team, but useful – and a slugger.” If that’s not Delwyn Young, I don’t know who is.

Broxton, Kemp, and Young for Cabrera? That’s actually not horribly unreasonable. I don’t know that I’d actually do it, because I’m so high on Kemp and I’m not sure I want to suffer through Cabrera at 3B, but that deal would not be the end of the world.

UPDATE: Buster Olney chimes in this morning with this:

The most interesting trade parameter mentioned is what the Marlins may ask the Dodgers for, in return for All-Star third baseman Miguel Cabrera: third baseman Andy LaRoche, minor league pitcher Clay Kershaw, and an outfielder – perhaps Matt Kemp.

Jesus. Well, someone’s off base here, because there’s no way in hell you can call that “less than what Texas got for Teixeira.” I mean, why stop there? Why not throw in Russell Martin, the deed to Dodger Stadium, and the corpse of Roy Campanella?

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This Is the Most Talent We've Seen in CF In Years

I am, of course, talking about Vin Scully’s introduction at today’s press conference. That man could read the 9/11 report and have it come out like poetry. Not to mention that he’s probably a better hitter than Juan Pierre. Have I mentioned how much I don’t like Juan Pierre? torreintrp.jpg

So Torre’s on board now (and bringing along Mattingly and Bowa, officially.) The press conference was most of your usual nonspeak, as Torre – shown at right either having a stroke or about to shoot a lightning bolt at Luke Skywalker – mostly said how “overwhelmed” he was to be in LA, and how he “doesn’t know most of the Dodger players”, which we’ll give him a mulligan on for the moment.

Probably the most important piece of info gleaned from today’s events would be the fact that he said he’s particularly excited about the young players the Dodgers have. I wasn’t always thrilled with some aspects of Torre’s managerial style in New York (bullpen usage mostly), but one thing he does have going for him is a good history of young players being given a chance to succeed – Robinson Cano, Joba Chamberlain, etc. Let’s hope he keeps that up in the Blue.

On ESPN, Steve “Danger to Myself and Others” Phillips has already blown past the Torre news and laid out his plan for Dodger success this offseason:

1. Get power at 3B – either Miguel Cabrera or Alex Rodriguez
2. Improve in CF – move Pierre to LF, sign Torii Hunter or Andruw Jones
3. Trade for Johan Santana.

So basically, if Steve Phillips was GM of the Dodgers, he would spend $400 million dollars and we’d probably see the last of Clayton Kershaw, Matt Kemp, Chin-Lung Hu, Andy LaRoche, Jonathan Broxton, and, oh, let’s say he’d probably throw in a few of our retired numbers too. (What, you don’t remember how great Sandy Koufax was in Marlins teal? What a pitcher.) Say what you will about Ned Colletti, but things could be much, much, worse.

By the way, completely off of the Dodgers for a second, the Pirates introduced John Russell (who?) as their manager today. And while the Dodgers moved their manager introduction ceremony/coronation out of the pressroom and onto the field to accommodate all of the press, the Pirates couldn’t even be bothered to put their conference live on FSN Pittsburgh, pirates.com, or mlb.com. Nice organization you’ve got out there, boys. And you wonder why you haven’t won since 1992.

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