I Know It’s Just the First Game of Spring But…

February 28, 2008 at 9:32 am | In lineups | No Comments

torresittingsm.jpg… I can see at least six things wrong with today’s ‘opening day’ lineup.

Pierre, LF
Furcal, SS
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Jones, CF
Loney, 1B
Nomar, 3B
Kemp, RF
J. Johnson, P

The obvious ones, of course:

- Nomar at 3B rather than LaRoche
- Pierre in LF rather than Ethier, Young, or Sandy Amoros

Moving on:

- Pierre batting leadoff (remember, the worst batter in the lineup getting the most at-bats) over Furcal
- Kent batting cleanup rather than Jones
- Nomar batting ahead of Kemp in any configuration
- Kemp.. batting 8th?!

I know, I know. It’s Feb. 28 and we all know the lineup on March 31 isn’t going to be exactly like this. But still - not off to a good start.

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

Official Guide To Vero Beach 2008

February 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm | In Dodgers, SamAdams, Spring Training, Vero Beach | 2 Comments

So, while my partner in crime jumps out of his chair and yells either: “Holy shit, someone hacked the blog!,” or “He’s… ALLLIVVEE!!,” I’ve been getting a few e-mails lately for advice regarding Vero Beach. So, I thought of giving them tips on the places to see there and recall my stories of hanging out with Maury Wills, or the time Sandy Koufax was down there and gave me pitching advice, or perhaps the time I went out to dinner with Tommy Lasorda and he stuck me with the bill.

But then I woke up and realized that I am 2,700 miles away, have never been there and never will. But, instead, I came up with a handy alternative. I have asked SamAdams from the BBWC to create a guide for all of you going this final year. Sam has practically lived there and knows everything there is to know about Vero Beach and Dodger Town, so enjoy!

A Guide to Dodgers’ Final Spring Training in Vero Beach

 

If you are going to Vero Beach for the Dodgers’ final spring fling, here are some tips to help you navigate the area and catch some of the truncated spring schedule.

 

Getting There

Vero Beach is primarily served by the Orlando airport (MCO). Non-stop flights are available on major carriers such as American, Delta, and United. The airport is also served by Continental, Southwest, and most major airlines. MCO is a 100-mile drive to Vero. Go east on the Beachline Expressway (toll of $1.25) for about 30 miles, then I-95 south about 60 miles to exit 147.

 

West Palm Beach (PBI) is closer. It’s about 75 miles south on I-95, but does not have as many flight options from the west coast. Melbourne airport (MLB…how appropriate) is only 35 miles from Vero, but is served primarily by Delta and has no direct flights from the west, but if you don’t mind changing planes in Atlanta, it’s a nice 45 minute drive along the coast down US-1 to Dodgertown.

 

Geography

Vero Beach is divided into two sections, the mainland and the island, or the beach as the island residents like to call it. Dodgertown is located centrally on the mainland. The eastern boundary of Vero Beach proper is the Indian River Lagoon/Atlantic Ocean and the western boundary is the I-95 area.

 

Navigating around the area is very simple, once you understand the Manhattan style grid arrangement. State highway 60 is the primary east-west corridor and is named 20th Street . All east-west routes are called “streets” and north-south routes “avenues”. The street numbers decrease to the south and increase to the north. Thus, 26th St. is north of 20th St. , and 16th St. is south of 20th St . In the same manner, Avenues, the north-south routes increase from east to west. 1st Ave. is at the water’s edge and 100th Ave. is near I-95. In addition to I-95 on the western edge of town, US-1 is a major north-south artery on the east side of the mainland.

 

The island, while part of Vero Beach , is its own little world. It is a narrow (less than one mile wide) barrier island that runs along much of the Atlantic Coast of Florida. It is bisected by highway A1A. This is an area of upscale homes, shopping, and restaurants, and its main streets in Vero are Ocean Drive and Cardinal Dr . There are two bridges that take you to the island. The Barber Bridge is an extension of Highway 60 (just follow the signs) and the other is an extension of 17th St .

 

To get to Dodgertown from 20th St. (Highway 60), from the west (I-95) take 43rd Ave. north and turn left (east) on 26th St . From the east, take 27th Ave north and turn left on 26th St. / Aviation Blvd.

 

Things to Do

Get to Dodgertown EARLY. Enter through the Holman Stadium main entrance. Immediately, glance to your right and you will see the major league clubhouse plaza and the large Dodgers logo on the front of the building. The second floor of this building is the administrative offices. Ned Colletti, Kim Ng, and other Dodgers executives and staff work out of these offices during spring training. Many of these offices offer a great view over the right field fence into Holman Stadium. Long home runs land on the balcony of the executive offices. The entire lower floor is devoted to the major league clubhouse, players’ fitness center, trainer’s room, and manager’s/coaches’ office.

 

Just outside the clubhouse building is Maury’s Pit, where Maury Wills can be seen teaching bunting, baserunning techniques, and sliding. Adjacent to that are the pitchers’ mounds where bullpen sessions can be observed throughout the morning. The major league batting cages are next to the pitchers’ area, although visibility is limited. You will clearly see the players entering and exiting the cages.

 

As you exit the plaza, walk to the right. Drop a few bucks at the gift shop on some cool Dodgertown souvenirs, then continue walking and cross the bridge on your left onto Vin Scully Way . To your left is Practice Field #2. To your right is a workout area and beyond that is Practice Field #1. Just beyond field 2 are more batting cages and next to field 1 is the famous “strings” area, where many famous Dodger pitchers learned command of the strike zone.

 

What makes Dodgertown unique is that throughout this ambling tour, you have probably walked past several Dodger players moving from one area to the next. If they have finished their workouts, they may be amenable to signing autographs. You’ll probably see Tommy Lasorda riding about on his golf cart, Manny Mota on his bicycle, and Joe Torre watching live hitting on one of the fields. Take your time. Soak it all in. The game doesn’t start until 1 p.m. You got here at 8 a.m. , didn’t you?

 

Restaurants

Vero is served by many of the major “chain” restaurants, (Outback, Carraba’s, Appleby’s TGI Friday’s, Ruby Tuesday, Chili’s, etc., and we won’t mention them further. They are easy to find, if that’s what you’re looking for. The same can be said for fast food franchises. Rather, we’ll try to list some of the local/area restaurants and give a critic’s opinion of them by type of food. This isn’t Zagat’s, just some personal observations.

 

Barbecue

If you’re from Texas , you might want to skip this category. Same for the Mexican food.

 

“Rip’s, the Place for Ribs” is one beach based restaurant with affordable prices, especially if you get there in time for the Early Bird specials. (You knew the state bird of Florida is the early bird, didn’t you?) Rip’s is easy to get to. Take the 17th St. Bridge to the island, cross A1A, turn right on Ocean Drive and it’s a few blocks on your right, 1555 Ocean Dr . The ribs are pretty good, the chicken is very good, and the service is prompt and friendly, and the atmosphere is very pleasant. They have happy hour specials and Yuengling on tap.

 

Bono’s is good for Florida barbecue. It’s located at 1500 US-1. (from highway 60 go south five blocks on US-1, and it’s on your left.) The barbecued chicken can range from delicious to dry. During spring, when the snowbirds have flocked in, it will probably be fresh and moist. Their ribs are good and the ambiance is nice and service is attentive. On Monday they have draft beer for 75 cents, limit 3.

Believe it or not, in addition to Bono’s there is another barbecue restaurant on Highway 60 called Sonny’s. Get it? Sonny Bono’s. I’ve never eaten there and have heard missed reviews. There are no restaurants in town named Cher ’s.

 

Woody’s is located north of Vero in Sebastian on US-1. It’s more of a family style barbecue place, and not worth the drive, but if you happen to be there, the food is acceptable.

 

Mexican

Not a lot of options and the only one that I would recommend is:

Ay Jalisco! The salsa is very good, the chips are warm and fresh, and some of the menu options are pretty good. I like the Pechuga Pollo, especially if they don’t over cook the chicken. Dos Equis Amber is on draft and frequently a happy hour item. They have three locations, but I recommend the one at 1909 20th St. across from Miracle Mile.

 

There is a Mexican restaurant very close to Dodgertown on 26th Ave /Aviation called La Fonda. We ate there soon after they moved from their 14th Ave. location, and, well, let’s just say we were not “fond” of the food. Maybe it’s improved, but try it at your own risk.

 

Cuban

Felix’s is located south of Dodgertown in the 400 block 43rd Avenue . They serve authentic Cuban cuisine in a casual, relaxed atmosphere.

 

Sunny Days Deli serves breakfast and lunch and is located at 2263 14th Ave. Great sandwiches and authentic Cuban cuisine. The owners moved to Vero Beach from Key West within the last year or two.

 

Chinese

Linn’s Garden has a good buffet, and is conveniently located on US1 just south of 20th St. on the left.

Szechuan Palace is convenient to Dodgertown. It’s located at 1965 43rd Ave. just south of D’town. It features pretty standard fare with a buffet.

 

Plum Tree is south about four-five miles south from Dodgertown at 43 Ave. and Oslo Rd. in the Publix Shopping Center behind Walgreens. Great take-out place with limited seating (about six tables). Try their steamed dumplings. No atmosphere.

 

Italian

For a simple Italian meal with no frills, but great prices, try Italian Delight, 600 6th Ave. South on US-1 to 6th St. on the left, tucked into a hard to get to shopping center. Nothing fancy, no wine list, just good food in copious quantities. Cash only! They have a couple of baseball pictures hanging in there, but they recently remodeled (who would guess?) and I didn’t see the Mike Piazza pictures last time, but they still had Vero resident and local icon, Bruce Froemming’s mug shot.

 

Italian Grill (not a lot of imagination in these names, folks) is very convenient to Dodgertown at 2180 58th Ave. The food is good, the service acceptable, and the atmosphere is okay. How is that for a glowing endorsement? You can’t beat the convenience, though.

 

Vincent’s Restaurant & Pizzeria, 510 21st St. at Miracle Mile has good pizza and Italian dishes in a pleasant, low key atmosphere. Sandy Koufax shops at the Publix super market just across the street.

 

Villa Nova 1327 21st St. features quality food and the worst service imaginable. It’s almost as if the owner, Stella, tries to offend every customer with her rude and caustic manner. Plan on a long evening if you dine there.

 

Bella Napoli, 1340 US-1. Very good food, excellent service, nice atmosphere, convenient location, and a little on the pricey side.

 

Ti Amo Sempre 3001 Ocean Dr. Excellent food, great ambiance, and very good service. The owners moved to Vero Beach from Colorado and have been in business here for about five years. (They owned a restaurant by the same name near Frisco , CO .) Expect to pay a premium price for this prime location and fine food.

 

Seafood

Ocean Grill, 1050 Sexton Plaza is THE place in Vero Beach if you don’t mind spending the money. This award winning establishment overlooks the Atlantic , the menu is excellent, service superb, and the atmosphere is wonderful. Extensive wine list and great steaks, too.

 

Mr. Manatee’s, 1 Royal Palm Point is a casual seafood grill. They feature daily specials and this is a good, informal place to gather after a Dodger game.

 

Lobster Shanty, Royal Palm Point (just down from Manatee’s and under the same ownership) is a slightly more formal, though still casual seafood restaurant. The restaurant overlooks the Indian River and the food is good.

 

Riverside Café, 3301 Bridge Plaza Drive …located just to the south side and practically under the Barber Street Bridge on the river side of the island. Good happy hour place and very good food. Nice sunset views. Go for drinks in the evening, check out the menu, and go from there. The scenery is usually good, inside and out.

 

South Beach Grill, 1410 Highway A1A. Take the 17th St. Bridge to the island, turn right on A1A, and it’s about a half mile down on your left. This is a good choice for an upscale restaurant without breaking the bank.

 

Steak

Hardwood Grill is located several miles north of Vero on US1 at the small town of Winter Beach . It’s on your left and the location is rural. Excellent steaks, attentive service, good wine list, and nice ambiance are features of this out of the way spot. I know it’s a favorite of former MLB commissioner, Fay Vincent, because I’ve seen him there two or three times. Fairly pricey, but well worth it.

 

14th Avenue Steakhouse, 2023 14th Avenue . Good steaks, excellent service, nice atmosphere in a convenient location.

 

Bobby’s, 3450 Ocean Drive . You are greeted by a large, autographed photo of Tommy Lasorda, and this is said to be one of Tommy’s favorite haunts. (That means he eats free.) Great location, good food and service in a very pleasant environment. Not inexpensive, but try it for lunch if you want to save your money. It is reported that after decades at this location, Bobby’s may be moving to Palm Point. This is unconfirmed, but comes from a reliable source. I have seen former Dodgers Ralph Branca and Ron Perranoski there on separate occasions. Plan on a long wait for dinner.

 

Breakfast and Lunch

Tomkat’s is my favorite place for breakfast and lunch in town. Don’t let the name scare you away Dodger fans, there is no connection between Tomkat’s and Brett Tomko! Tomkat’s features a small, but eclectic menu, and you won’t be disappointed.

 

Old Towne Café is a quarter mile from Dodgertown near the corner of 26th St. / Aviation Blvd. and 27th Ave. It’s a traditional home cooking restaurant with good breakfast and an all you can eat Friday fish fry.

 

C. J. Cannon’s 3114 Cherokee is located at the Vero Beach airport terminal across 26th Ave. from Dodgertown. It is a local favorite spot.

 

Mrs. Macs Filling Station, 951 Old Dixie Highway , is another local favorite. Its automotive theme is carried all the way to red rags for napkins.

 

Hotel/Motels

Sea Spray Gardens Motel is located at 936 Causeway Blvd. To get there, take the 17th St. Bridge across A1A, continue two blocks, and the Sea Spray is on your left. It is basically a 60’s style motel. Each room has a kitchenette, so despite being almost on the beach, you can really make it a budget stay if you want to do your own cooking. It has a pool and laundry facilities, and while it’s nothing fancy, the location is excellent.

 

The Driftwood Resort, 3150 Ocean Drive is near the heart of the beach side. It offers ocean villas. In-season rates will run you about $150 and up.

 

The Holiday Inn is a few blocks north of the Driftwood and is adjacent to the original Bobby’s restaurant location.

 

Just north of the Holiday Inn is the Vero Beach Hotel and Club. They offer suites along with 1-3 bedroom accommodations with accompanying sticker shock that one would expect from a top quality resort.

 

Among the newer motels in Vero is the Hampton Inn. It is located west of I-95, but is still only a 15 minute drive to Dodgertown.

 

Nearby is the Country Inn and Suites. Both it and the Hampton are within walking distance of the Outlet Mall and a Cracker Barrel Restaurant.

 

The Comfort Inn is located on US1 south of Highway 60. It is within walking distance of several restaurants.

 

The Vero Beach Resort, 8800 20th St. (Highway 60) is one of the few establishments which accepts pets. (No La Quinta in Vero.) Don’t let the name “resort” fool you. It’s basically a converted Days Inn and has an IHOP on the premises. If you’re bringing a pet, it may be the last resort.

The Best Western is located across Highway 80 from the VB Resort. One of the Dodger players mother stayed there last year and said it was horrible. However, they have advertised a complete remodeling, so it might be acceptable.

 

Golf

Sandridge Golf Course boasts two public 18-hole, par 72 courses. It is located at 5300 73rd St . Go north on 58th St , and it is about 50 blocks north of Highway 60, on the right. One of the courses is called the Lakes and the other the Sands. Both have plenty of both and it’s hard to tell which course you’re actually playing. Bring your sand wedge and ball retriever to both.

 

The Club at Pointe West is located south of Highway 60 ( 20th St. ) near 75th Ave. It is an 18 hole semi-private course.

 

Vista Plantation Condominium Golf Course is located at Highway 60 near 62nd Ave. This is a short, par 60-ish, 18 hole course, so you won’t need your driver. It’s open to the public and convenient to Dodgertown.

 

Shopping

Major shopping areas include the Indian River Mall on Highway 60 between 58th and 62nd Ave. and the Outlet Mall just west of I-95 on Highway 60.

 

Upscale shops abound along Ocean Drive and Cardinal on the island.

 

Night Life

The options here are somewhat limited, beyond the restaurants previously noted. Maybe that’s why Walter O’Malley chose Vero Beach for his spring training base over 60 years ago. It’s pretty hard to get into trouble in this great little town.

 

Thanks, Sam!

- Vin vinscully-face.jpg

 

Why Does Pierre Have To Make It So Hard to Dislike Him?

February 19, 2008 at 1:15 pm | In Juan Pierre sucks | 2 Comments

There’s no shortage of writing out there about how underqualified Juan Pierre is to have a starting outfield spot for the 2008 Dodgers (something we’ve covered ad nauseum, particularly here, and which is nicely summed up by DodgerThoughts today), but he’s certainly not making it easy on me (off the field, at least). For someone who I would love nothing more than to see far, far away from the Dodgers, his continued class and respect really makes it hard to want to keep dumping on him.

Selected quotes from JP at dodgers.com today:

“I’m not the kind of guy who says I have to play center field. If it makes the team better, I’m not walking around sulking. I’ll play like I always play.”

“Some people value what I do and some people don’t,” he said. “I don’t know their thought process. All I can do is play hard. I’m close to Kemp and Ethier. There’s no rift with any of them. I wish everybody the best. At the end of the day, we have to see a benefit to the team. If not, they might have to look at getting rid of me if they don’t see me as an asset.

“It is what it is. I wouldn’t say I was upset, but I stopped watching TV,” he said. “To sign Andruw, I’m not a power hitter, so I can’t get too offended. But when people say they finally got a center fielder, that kind of hurt a bit. I have the utmost respect for Andruw. I’m a big Andruw Jones fan.”

“If Andruw drives in runs, everybody will be happy. We’ve all got a job to do. You can’t say that Andruw’s here and everything’s OK. But I take full responsibility for my game last season. If I did my job better, the season would have turned out better.”

“I sign a contract for 162 games and I like to think I honor the contract,” he said. “I know the team counts on me. There might be guys that want me to sit, but that’s just the way I feel.”

Man. He makes me just want to give him a great big hug. And refuse to let him go until December. Of 2011. Like in Misery.

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

Please Don’t Give Us Nixon to Kick Around

February 18, 2008 at 9:01 am | In Trot Nixon, rumors | 1 Comment

From ESPN:

TUCSON, Ariz. — Veteran outfielder Trot Nixon, still hoping to latch on with a big-league club as a free agent, auditioned for the Arizona Diamondbacks at the team’s spring training complex in Tucson on Sunday.

Nixon, 33, is a .275 hitter with 136 home runs in 11 seasons with Boston and Cleveland. After struggling to stay healthy during the end of his tenure with the Red Sox, he hit .251 with three homers in 307 at-bats for the Indians last season.

Arizona opened up Nixon’s workout so other interested teams could take a look. Toronto, Seattle and the Los Angeles Dodgers all had scouts on hand to watch him.

I try not to make a big deal out of sending scouts out to look, because due diligence and all, and no contract was signed. But what in the hell are the Dodgers doing looking at old-and-busted Trot Nixon? The Dodgers already have too many outfielders (especially now considering that Mark Sweeney can backup the outfield corners), and Trot Nixon is, well, bad. trotnixon.jpg

Trot Nixon OPS, 2003-07
2003: .974
2004: .887
2005: .803
2006: .767
2007: .678

That seems like a pretty clear path to me. But hey, he’s turning 34 the first week of the season, so I’m totally sure that he’ll turn around a 5-year slide. Not to mention, he can only play right field, and he’s blatantly unusable against lefties (OPS vs lefties last three years: .629), and why are we even wasting gas money sending scouts to watch him? I know, nothing’s been signed, but if any veteran retreads like this make the team over Delwyn Young, we’re going to have some major problems around here.

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

Could Reason Actually Win Out?

February 15, 2008 at 7:25 am | In Andre Ethier, Brett Tomko, Juan Pierre sucks | 3 Comments

I don’t think I need to rehash just how most Dodger fans feel about Juan Pierre; you can find a few hundred negative articles about him on this and and many other blogs. It’s no secret that 99% of us would love to see Pierre dumped for peanuts on anyone and go with an outfield of Ethier-Jones-Kemp, with Delwyn Young and Jason Repko (if… must keep straight face… healthy) as the backups. Failing that, at least make Pierre a backup OF/pinch-runner extraordinaire, especially now that Jones has taken his CF spot, because as indefensible as it was to roll him out there every day, letting him play a corner spot is borderline criminal. But when a guy has 4 years and about $36 million left on his deal, it’s not unusual to see sound baseball sense take a decided back seat to writing huge paychecks for a guy you won’t let play. (Come on, McCourt, I was a history major and even I know what the concept of a sunk cost is).

Anyway, most of us are resigned to the fact that due to his contract, Pierre’s going to be our everyday left fielder, leaving Ethier and Kemp to battle it out in right field, which is so ass-backwards I can’t even talk about it coherently.

Except Tony Jackson of the LA Daily News injects some much-needed hope

Juan Pierre showed up early today, but declined to meet with reporters, promising to do so when he returns on Tuesday. He also hinted that he knows exactly what we want to ask him about, which is the situation in left field. Torre said hello to Pierre but didn’t address the LF matter with him beyond what the two discussed over the telephone this winter. Looking more and more like J.P. will have to actually beat out Andre Ethier for the job, although Torre did admit that his history suggests he likes veteran players.

Obviously this is a reporter’s speculation, but still - extremely promising. Does that mean Kemp is going to get the RF job, as well know he should? Does this mean Pierre won’t just be handed the LF job, as we all know he shouldn’t? Looks like a sad situation just got a whole lot more interesting.

In other news, how glad are you to be a Dodger fan and not a Royals fan?

Pitching coach Bob McClure said 11 pitchers will open camp as candidates for the rotation: Gil Meche, Zack Greinke, Brian Bannister, Brett Tomko, Jorge De La Rosa, Luke Hudson, John Bale, Brian Lawrence, Kyle Davies, Hideo Nomo and Mike Maroth.

Only an injury is likely to keep Meche, Greinke and Bannister from making the rotation. Club officials also indicate Tomko must pitch his way out of the No. 4 slot.

First of all, that’s no typo, that’s no impersonator - that’s the Hideo Nomo. But read that last sentence again. “Tomko must pitch his way out of the No. 4 slot.” How sad is that?

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

Still Three Outs in an Inning, Mark

February 10, 2008 at 3:22 pm | In Andre Ethier, Andy LaRoche, Joe Blanton, Livian Hernandez, Mark Sweeney, rumors | 3 Comments

Brace yourselves: may contain actual baseball content.sweeney1.jpg

As many of us expected, ESPN.com is reporting that the Dodgers are close to re-signing 1B/OF/PH Mark Sweeney to a one-year deal. He’ll “pinch hit and log some at-bats as a reserve at first base and the outfield.” I realize this is a team that carried Big Sexy Saenz as an exclusive pinch-hitter the last few years (and he couldn’t even play the outfield) but is this not the height of redundancy? According to that quote, Sweeney will:

1. Pinch hit.
2. Be a reserve at first base.
3. Be a reserve in the outfield (corners only, certainly.)

Which is all well and good, but I know I’m hoping for Nomar to be the guy who fulfils roles #1 and 2, because that means Andy LaRoche has won the third base job. (More on the third base scenarios later in this post). As for outfield reserves, we’ve already got 4 starters for 3 spots, and that’s not even considering Delwyn Young and Jason Repko. Sure, Sweeney’s a lefty and Nomar’s not, but our bench likely includes at least one lefty (whichever of Ethier & Pierre isn’t playing that day) and one switch-hitter, Tony Abreu - two, if Young makes the squad.

Hey, this isn’t really a big enough deal to make a stink about it, obviously Torre wanted a veteran stick off the bench, and there’s nothing wrong with that, especially for what will likely be a pretty low salary. Just doesn’t seem like Sweeney adds all that much that we didn’t already have. But make sure someone teaches him how many outs are in an inning, though, can we?

In other news, why can’t the Joe Blanton rumors just die already? Troy Renck of the Denver Post:

Oakland’s asking price for pitcher Joe Blanton is steep. From the Dodgers, the A’s want Andre Ethier, Andy LaRoche and a prospect. Cincinnati also is pushing hard for the right-hander. Don’t rule out the Dodgers making a play for Livan Hernandez, either. . . .

I don’t even know if I could comprehend the idea of Cheeseburger in Dodger blue, so we’re going to skip that and get back to Blanton. To which I say: why? I know, I know, there’s two sides to the Dodger starting rotation coin: the side that says we’ve got 6 guys for 5 spots, without even counting James McDonald, Clayton Kershaw, etc.; and the side that points out all the questions about age, health, and the unknown (i.e., Kuroda).

Personally, I’m on the side that says, the Dodgers have a lot more pitching depth than most teams, and if you want to throw a bit of money at a middling veteran starter for depth, well, fine, but there is absolutely no need to start throwing away highly-rated prospects to do so. Andy LaRoche is a consensus top-20 prospect in all of baseball; whereas Joe Blanton would probably be the Dodgers’ 4th starter. And what then? Nomar as the starting 3B? I can’t imagine Colletti lets that happen. So now we need a third baseman. Does that mean including the deal to get Chavez from the A’s too? If so, what else would have to be thrown in to the deal? Chavez is an All-Star; but he’s also had 3 surgeries this winter alone, has $37 million left on his deal, and, oh yeah - gets a full no-trade clause at the end of 2008. No thanks.

If not Chavez, the only other third baseman thought to be available is Joe Crede of the White Sox, who just missed a huge chunk of 2007 with back surgery. So.. thanks, but no thanks. Even the one benefit of a Crede deal with the Sox - the thought that Chicago is the most likely place to dump Juan Pierre - wouldn’t apply, because if Ethier was dealt to Oakland, then there’s no way that Pierre could be traded as well.

As always, don’t put too much stock into newspaper rumors with no sources behind them, but it seems pretty obvious to me: let’s pass on Joe Blanton.

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

When Will Soon Be Now??

February 9, 2008 at 2:39 pm | In 2008 preview, ceyheyjay, guest post | 3 Comments

Pitchers and catchers, please pick up the white courtesy phone and report to Vero Beach, FL. Please, for everyone’s sake. On a personal note, this will be the first time since 2004 I won’t be attending a spring training at Dodgertown; if only I’d known that last year was going to be my last.

But, on a brighter note, 2008 beckons with a good deal of hope for the Blue (despite what may be the toughest and most competitive division in baseball). To that end, let’s take an in-depth look at the upcoming season’s roster with an MSTI first - a guest post by the illustrious and handsome CeyHeyJay, in what will certainly annihilate the MSTI record for “most words in a post”. Take it away, Jay!

Starting Pitching: Our pitching staff is pretty close to set with the signing of Rudy Seanez, although I’m not sold that it’s a foregone conclusion he’ll make the team. He got a ML roster spot, but his contract isn’t guaranteed. I figure he’ll have to show at least a little something in spring to save his spot. I see him being someone who will likely make the opening day roster, but with his age and use last year, along with year-to-year inconsistencies, I expect Seanez will be good for a while and somewhere around June or July start to fall apart, at which time he may get released and replaced with one of our many young pitchers ready to contribute.

The rotation is set at 4 spots without question.
Penny
Billingsley
Lowe
Kuroda

I don’t like Schmidt’s chances at starting the year in the rotation. In fact, I think we are likely to see a new trend started this year with the Dodgers leading the way.
There are a number of free agent pitchers, who like Schmidt, are returning from major injuries. Most of those haven’t been signed yet. I think several will be, and teams will try to do what I expect the Dodgers to do, use the pitcher returning from injury for “depth.”

I think Schmidt will start the year in extended spring training, especially if Loiaza does reasonably well in the spring. I know many are down on Esteban; in fact, many are already comparing him to Tomko. I don’t think that’s fair. Loiaza’s numbers over the years have shown he’s good one year, bad the next, good the next, bad the next. When he’s had a good year, he’s been mostly good that entire year. I think he’s just under 50-50 in the chances that he’ll be good this year.

I think Loiaza gets the 5 spot in the rotation to begin the year with Schmidt and Kuo in extended spring training. If Loiaza shows early that we’re going to get Bad Esteban, then Schmidt or Kuo will be “rushed,” depending on which one is more ready.

Jon Weisman at DodgerThoughts had an interesting take on Kuo. He seems to think the Dodgers will use him as a reliever and just let him pitch until his arm falls off, which will invariably happen. I think there is something to that, but he’s just not done well as a reliever. They could use him as a long guy, making sure he gets plenty of time to warm up and only starts innings, but while that concept sounds good, it never seems to work out. I say send him to extended spring training and see what happens from there. Bottom line, you can’t count on anything whatsoever from Kuo. If we get anything at all, it’s unexpected manna from heaven.

Relief Pitching: As for relievers, Weisman seems to think Loiaza will fill the long man role, and like I said above, I disagree. Everyone can agree we have four spots set.

CL Saito
Set-up Broxton
LH Beimel
RH Proctor

I am thrilled with each of those four returning in the roles they have. Beimel’s a beast against LH, while Proctor is the definition of a workhorse. Broxton is too, but he’s still young and should not have been abused in the fashion he was last year. Little simply used him in situations he didn’t have to and we paid for it late in the season. If he’s used correctly, and I know Torre doesn’t have a reputation for using relievers correctly, Broxton will continue to turn into the beast he’s destined to be. I expect he’ll get some saves this year as Sammy isn’t getting any younger. In another year or two, I think Broxton will be battling Paplebon for the title of best relief pitcher in baseball. I expect this year, he’ll be the best “non full time” closer in baseball as well.

If we accept the notion that Seanez is a lock, which isn’t that faulty of a notion, then it’s a matter of who gets the last spot. One thing to keep in mind is the schedule works pretty well in our favor in April and May. There are plenty of days off, pretty well spaced out, so carrying 12 pitchers shouldn’t be a necessity until June or so.

I like the idea of Brazoban getting the spot. Yhency is at a point in his career where it’s time to find out what he is. Of course, he’s got to be healthy to find that out, but I’m still intrigued by him. Remember, when we first got him, he soared through the system and looked like a very good set-up guy. Then the Gagne injury pushed him into the closer’s role in 2005 and he failed miserably. I don’t think he’s got what it takes to be a closer, for whatever reason, but I think it’s quite possible he could still turn out to be a pretty solid set-up guy. Whatever the case, we need to find out.

However, Brazoban still has options, which sort of complicates things in my mind. I like depth, and as much as I like it, Colletti likes it twice as much. So, we could go with someone like Mike Myers or Tom Martin for the final spot, giving us two LH, and have Yhency in Vegas waiting for Rudy Seanez to fall apart. That seems like the most logical thing to see happen.

So, I’ll start the season with:
SP Penny
SP Billingsley
SP Lowe
SP Kuroda
SP Loiaza
RP Saito
RP Broxton
RP Proctor
RP Beimel
RP Seanez
RP Myers or Martin

Starting Line-up: While the line-up seems quite set, there will be debate about what line-up to use. However, especially in these parts, the choice seems obvious.

SS Furcal
C Martin
1B Loney
CF Jones
RF Kemp
2B Kent
3B LaRoche
LF Ethier

Debate Kemp or Loney in the 3 hole, debate what order Kemp or Loney bats in relation to Kent. Put Kent in the 5 hole if you must. But, however you do it, that HAS to be our starting 8, doesn’t it?

We’ll be swamped with stories about Pierre starting and hitting 2nd, but I’m still holding out hope, like everyone else around these parts, that he’ll be sent to the White Sox or somebody. If not, I’ll hold out hope all the way to the bitter end, they he’s no more than our PR specialist. I know what some are are probably thinking, I thought you were a Pierre fan. Don’t believe the hype. I said it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Ethier was traded and Pierre was kept. That had more to do with what Ethier should be worth and could net in a trade than it ever did with Pierre’s value. Pierre in LF, sharing time with Delwyn Young, while we got some really, really good value for Ethier, would not have been the end of the world. Pierre starting, hitting at the top of the order, while Ethier only spot starts and Young rarely starts at all, that’s no good, no good at all!

What has worried me more lately is hearing Torre talk about how Pierre would be hitting at the top of the order if he does play. The problem that presents is we have too many impact hitters to waste a spot with Pierre at the top of the order. Seriously, who would he move to the 7 hole? Martin???? Loney???? Kemp???? Each of those guys has a chance to make a huge impact on our line-up and they all could benefit from having both Jones and Kent hitting around them, providing protection. NONE of those three should be hitting 7th.

And Andy LaRoche’s development will be a big story as well. Think of this, LaRoche has always hit in the middle of the order in whatever line-up he’s been in, probably ever since he picked up a bat in T-Ball. It will be a bit of an adjustment hitting 7th, but how is he going to develop hitting 8th. Actually, he did almost what you want an 8th place hitter to do last year, when forced into that spot. Be patient, make the pitcher throw you pitches, take a lot of walks and get on base. That’s what we want out of the 8th spot, but that’s not what we want from Andy LaRoche. We want him looking for pitches to crush, which he should be able to do hitting 7th. That’s a much more difficult task hitting 8th and we shouldn’t be doing anything to make it more difficult for Andy LaRoche to develop into what he can become.

Trade Pierre! Sit him. Do whatever you have to, but don’t let him disrupt our young players. And I say all that without even getting into the fact that Andre Ethier will probably be a .300/.365/.430 guy with around 18 HR, give or take, if he gets a full season of ABs as a starter.

The choice IS obvious. Do the right thing Torre/Colletti!

Bench: As for the bench, it doesn’t seem that we are done yet. There is still talk of Mark Sweeney and Tony Clark, and I would guess we’ll add a LH bat off the bench at some point in the next week or so.

Bennett is set as the back-up catcher, hopefully a spot Torre uses a little more frequently than Little did. The fact that our line-up is deeper may lend itself to doing that. The main thing I want to see is what Russell Martin can do if he’s rested properly. Was it just me or did it seem every time he was rested, the next day he had 2 or 3 hits and did something spectacular? If he gets enough rest I think he’ll hit over .300 with a .400 OBP and a SLG closer to 500 than 400. I think he could hit close to 25 home runs and steal that many bases.

I really really like the idea of Nomar being a super utility guy, and not just because I want LaRoche to start so badly. I just think the fit could be perfect for both Nomar and the Dodgers for years to come. I think he can provide adequate defense at 3 or 4 positions to be the guy not only to come off the bench and give you starts or a great PH, but also be a guy you can use in case of injury. If he can learn to play a decent 2B, he could fill in if Kent goes down for a few weeks. If LaRoche or Loney went down for a short time, he could fill in there. He probably could learn to play the outfield well enough to help out there for a couple of weeks.

What Nomar could do is avoid us being in a situation where we have to make a trade because of an injury. Those sort of trades can really hamper your long-term planning. If Nomar is able to fill in at a number of spots, he could provide depth as our “9th starter.” It could be an asset that could make him worth $5 million a year going forward, and he seems at this point in his life to be a lot less worried about making money and a lot more concerned with being in a comfortable position. He’s loved by Dodger fans, and if he takes this sort of role on, he could continue forward as one of our most beloved players.

As for the other spots off the bench, it seems very likely that Delwyn Young will be the 4th outfielder, and he seems very ready for that role. In fact, HE might be the one to push Ethier for playing time. Also, I would not expect Kemp or Ethier to be ready to play anywhere near 162 games at this point in their careers, so Young should get a fair share of starts to keep him from getting rusty. He just seems like a guy who can flat out hit, so I think he’d been fine as a pinch-hitter, better than what you would expect from the average young kid.

Abreu will likely take the utility infielder role, which will be a more important role considering Kent’s age and the fact that the addition of Jones means we don’t have to keep Kent’s bat in games as much late in games. Abreu might play 120 games and only have 200 or so ABs. He’ll play a lot of late inning defense, but I figure he’ll also get a fair share of starts as well.

In reality, we don’t even need Pierre for the bench as Jason Repko provides everything Pierre can provide off the bench, along with being twice the defender Juan is. However, Pierre could provide depth, so he may be kept around with Repko still having options, meaning Jason could provide depth by being in Vegas.

C Bennett
IF Garciaparra
IF Abreu
OF Young
OF Pierre
PH Sweeney

What I have done is a combination of what I would do and what I expect Colletti will do. For instance, I would sign Clark for the PH role, but it just doesn’t seem to me that’s likely to happen. I figure Sweeney’s more Colletti’s guy. I’d also trade Pierre for whatever I could get at this point, but I figure Colletti will keep him around. Actually, I fear Pierre will start the year hitting 1st or 2nd and starting in LF. If that happens, I hope Martin bats 8th as he’s the one hitter of all our young hitters who is completely developed and wouldn’t be hampered by hitting that low in the order. However, if we waste Martin’s bat hitting him 8th, somebody should be slapped.

Thanks for pinch-hitting, Jay. I look forward to your upcoming page-a-day calendar, 365 Reasons Why Juan Pierre Sucks.

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Fire Joe Morgan… Out of a Cannon

February 6, 2008 at 1:33 pm | In FireJoeMorgan | 3 Comments

This is what the internet is all about, folks: here we have a blog run by two guys who’ve taken their names from The Simpsons and a octogenarian baseball broadcaster about to discuss another blog’s decision to take the makeup off and reveal their true selves. As you may have noticed around here, we’re huge fans of FireJoeMorgan.com. Most every time we tear apart an article line for line (I’m still angry at Tracy Ringolsby) it’s a direct result of the influence the good folks at FJM have had on us.

If you’re not up on the FJM ethos, the story goes that it’s just some random college friends across the country who took their back-and-forth emails trashing awful sports-writing and made a sparsely-designed yet wildly popular website out of it, though never using their real names. The headman, “Ken Tremendous”, purported himself to be an insurance salesman in the middle of Kansas. While we knew that was likely a load of crap, it was kind of a nice thought that these guys were just regular guys like us - rabid sports fans who enjoy writing about/making fun of our passions, rather than actually focusing on our boring day jobs.

Except, today, the guys at FJM have revealed their true selves. Which are… television writers? “Ken Tremendous” is actually a writer for The Office, and occasionally appears as Dwight’s crazy Amish relative, Mose? The other guys have credits ranging from South Park to Last Call With Carson Daly? I’m not totally sure if this makes me like the site more or less. On one hand, I liked thinking that it was the blog of the average fan fighting against the inanity that is put out by the “legitimate media.” On the other hand, I do really like The Office.

More importantly, if these guys are TV writers: aren’t you on strike? Why aren’t there 6 FJM posts a day? I’m actually kind of disappointed there haven’t been any FJM in-jokes on The Office yet, like how 30 Rock has (more than once!) worked in LemonParty.com jokes. (No, I’m not providing a hyperlink to that site. No, I don’t recommend you go there - NSFW is one thing, but it’s more Not Safe For Humans).

I, for one, look forward to the episode where Dunder-Mifflin creates a company softball team and manager Michael Scott complains that Stanley is “clogging up the bases.”

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

RU-DY, RU-DY, RU-DY

February 4, 2008 at 7:18 pm | In Rudy Seanez, roster moves | 5 Comments

Delino DeShields, Brett Butler, Henry Rodriguez, Orel Hershiser, Roger McDowell, and Jim Gott. Intrigued yet? Try this:seanez.jpg

1. Jerry Browne 2b
2. Paul Zuvella ss
3. Joe Carter 1b
4. Cory Snyder rf
5. Danny Gonzalez dh
6. Brook Jacoby 3b
7. Joey Belle lf
8. Brad Komminsk cf
9. Andy Allanson c
p. Tom Candiotti

That would be selected teammates of Rudy Seanez on the 1994 Dodgers, his first go-round in LA, and the starting lineup of the Cleveland Indians on September 7, 1989, for whom he made his major league debut.

That’s right: according to the LA Times, the Dodgers are bringing back the guy who played with some figures of ancient history for another shot at it in 2008.

Right-hander Rudy Seanez has re-signed with the Dodgers, inking a non-guaranteed major league contract that could be worth up to $1.3 million, according to a baseball source.

The one-year contract calls for a base salary of $550,000 and a $150,000 bonus if the 39-year-old Seanez makes the Dodgers’ opening-day roster. If Seanez isn’t on the roster because of an injury he sustains in spring training, he will be paid the entire base salary. He will receive about a quarter of that as a termination fee if he is cut for performance reasons.

Seanez could earn up to an additional $600,000 in bonuses based on his number of appearances. Seanez will collect $75,000 for pitching in his 45th game, another $100,000 for his 50th, $125,000 for his 55th and $150,000 for both his 60th and 65th.

Seanez pitched in a career-high 73 games last season for the Dodgers, posting a 6-3 record and 3.79 earned-run average. He earned $1.2 million last season, including $500,000 in bonuses, and became a free agent this off-season.

First of all, I like that this info came from “a baseball source.” It’s one thing to have your source call you and say, “I hear the Dodgers are signing Andruw Jones!” or “Santana’s definitely going to the Mets!” What’s your reaction when you get the breathless call about “hot Rudy Seanez info!”?

As for the signing itself? Sure, why not? It’s non-guaranteed, it’s only for $1.7 million even if he collects all of his incentives, and it’s not like you can ever have too many arms in the pen. Besides, with the top 4 in the pen pretty well set (Saito/Broxton/Proctor/Beimel), and either Loaiza or Schmidt likely to claim a spot depending on health and who wins the 5th starter spot, Seanez isn’t exactly auditioning for a high-pressure role here.

Area of concern: Seanez is 38, pitched a career-high in games last year, and was markedly better in the first half (3.12 ERA) than after (4.54 ERA).

And to the end of the previous sentence, I’ve now written 452 words on a mediocre elderly middle reliever who just got a non-guaranteed deal. Just ten more days, people!

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

PECOTA Hates the Dodgers

February 2, 2008 at 12:01 pm | In baseball prospectus, projections | 5 Comments

Baseball Prospectus just put out their 2008 “Weighted Mean” Projections, their first look at guessing what 2008 will look like. As it’s a for-pay service, I won’t copy and paste the entire thing here, but a quick first glance caught my eye. Here’s what their best guesses at W-L records and ERA will be for the projected Dodger starting rotation:

Brad Penny: 9-9, 4.29 ERA
Derek Lowe: 9-9, 4.12 ERA
Chad Billingsley: 8-8, 3.96 ERA
Hiroki Kuroda: 10-9, 4.12 ERA
Jason Schmidt: 4-5, 4.57 ERA

Wow. Slightly pessimistic, no? You may have also noticed that, while we all know that W-L records are not the greatest way to grade a pitcher, this fivesome adds up to exactly a .500 record, with only newcomer Kuroda (!) even getting to ten wins. This despite a 2007 in which the top 3 of Penny, Lowe, and Billingsley garnered 16, 12, and 12 wins respectively, to finish a cumulative 17 games over .500.

I predict: these are way off.

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