And Also, That Soul Patch Is Ludicrous
March 1, 2008 at 10:32 am | In Brandon Inge, rumors |Am I just a negative person? It seems like every time a Dodgers trade rumor pops up, I’m always staunchly against it. I can’t remember the last time I saw one that made me go, “oooh, let’s do that!” Except for when I proposed trading Juan Pierre to the Baseball Furies for a few buckets of facepaint. (What, no one’s seen The Warriors? For shame.)
With that in mind, eagle-eyed reader James alerts us to Danny Knobler’s latest news from whatever the hell “mlife.com” is:
The Los Angeles Dodgers have contacted the Tigers about Inge, and while talks do
not seem to have progressed far, a baseball official familiar with the situation said the Dodgers remain interested in making a deal.
Inge would play third base for the Dodgers, who did not have a full-time third baseman last season and have been trying to decide between veteran Nomar Garciaparra and rookie Andy LaRoche this spring.
New Dodgers manager Joe Torre is familiar with Inge from his time in the American League, and Torre and new Dodgers third base coach Larry Bowa are said to be Inge backers.
Inge remains popular with Tigers fans, who have given him louder applause than any other player during the first few spring games. But the Tigers remain open to trading him.
Among the reasons: Inge wants to be traded and his hefty salary: $6.2 million.
If you haven’t been following the Brandon Inge situation, he’s one of the most popular Tigers because he was there during their brutal 119-loss 2003 season, yet was able to switch positions from catcher to third base and become reasonably productive. But since the Tigers went out and got Miguel Cabrera this offseason, Inge is out of a job and is being looked at as an incredibly versatile supersub, filling in from catcher to centerfield. He’s made it pretty clear how unhappy he is with the situation and wants to be dealt to a team where he can be the starting 3B.
On to the negativity! We don’t want Brandon Inge because:
He’s not very good: At his best, he was barely league-average - and quickly getting worse. He’s had four seasons of more than 400 at-bats, which would be the last four. His OPS+ in those seasons? 109, 100, 98, 80. Wow. That’s a career path I want a part of! Not superb to begin with, and clearly getting worse. How about OBP? .340, .330, .313, .312. (By comparison, MSTI whipping boy Pierre, who I’m constantly on for his subpar OBP, beats Inge in 3 out of the 4 years, including the last 2). Let’s do batting average! .287, .261, .253, .236. I don’t know how many other ways to say it; this is a player who had a mild peak and by all measures is past it. I think people are fooled by his inexplicable 27 HR 2006, which seems to be a massive fluke as he has never topped 14 HR in any other season.
He’s expensive: He signed a 4-year deal starting in 2007, which means he’s still got 3 years and $19.1 million left on it. Granted, the Tigers are probably going to have to eat some of that no matter what deal they make. But does anyone really think that his declining production - which, let’s face it, seems likely to only continue declining - is worth any of that money? Do we really think that Andy LaRoche can’t match that for the league minimum? Which reminds me:
Are we really going to block LaRoche with someone who’s not that good? I’m well aware that this is just a rumor from some website, and it certainly hasn’t actually happened. But the fact that Knobler says the Dodgers are initiating this worries me. If we’d gone out and gotten someone like Cabrera this offseason to play 3B, then fine: that’s a clear upgrade. Inge is by no means an upgrade in any way - he might in fact be worse over a full season than LaRoche would be if he were to get a fair chance. How does paying more money for less production make sense in any way? (Trying.. not.. to… bring up… outfield… situation… gahh…)
He wouldn’t come for free: As much as the Tigers want to dump him, they’ve already said they won’t do it for a lousy deal. So not only would I think playing Inge at 3B be a poor choice, we’d also have to give up talent for him. Now, of course the thought of dumping Juan Pierre in a “my problem for yours” is very tempting, but the Tigers have absolutely no need for outfielders, as they’re set with Jacque Jones, Curtis Granderson, and Magglio Ordonez left to right, with Gary Sheffield and Marcus Thames both around to play the corners and DH. Plus, if they don’t trade Inge, their payroll is already at $134 million this season, with the need to extend Cabrera to a possibly $200 million deal coming soon. They don’t need to add money.
No, what the Tigers need is relief pitching, with Joel Zumaya out for maybe half the season if not more, Fernando Rodney already hurting, and Todd Jones being made out of string cheese and duct tape. Assuming that Saito & Broxton are completely untouchable, that Beimel probably wouldn’t be part of the conversation either, and that guys like Seanez and Myers are worthless in trade, what are we looking at here? Would Torre really just be desperate to get rid of Scott Proctor again? Would we actually be so stupid as to start talking about Jonathan Meloan?
So basically what this deal would most likely be for the Blue is:
1) Get worse at 3B.
2) Take on more salary to do so.
3) (Probably) get worse in the bullpen.
Oh yeah. I’m totally on board with this one.
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not seem to have progressed far, a baseball official familiar with the situation said the Dodgers remain interested in making a deal.


C’mon - don’t you know B. Inge is a gold glove caliber 3B (if you don’t count all those easy plays where he launches the ball into the stands or right field)? That only shows what a powerful arm he has.
Don’t let that .241 career average scare you - he can hit a golf ball 300 yards with a fly swatter, and kick a 50 yard field goal with either foot (blindfolded). Such an athlete!
Plus, he’s firmly grounded in reality. When the Tigers signed Pudge Rodriguez, Brandon told the media he thought he was a better catcher than Pudge. And last year when he was struggling (TM Joe Namath), he said that he was being pitched to just like Babe Ruth and Ted Williams would be.
Take our malcontent super-sub, please.
Comment by Tiger Fan — March 1, 2008 #
Hah! Tiger Fan, you’ve completely changed my mind on the whole thing. Brilliant post. Bring him on!
(please tell me that he didn’t really say he was being pitched to like Ruth and Ted, did he? really?)
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness — March 1, 2008 #
Yes, he really said that. Here’s a neat piece from a news story this past September, where he blames others for his own garbage plate appearances:
The point about adjustments, Inge believes, has everything to do with this season’s headaches.
“Big time,” he said. “What’s funny is that I saw a stat on FOX that said, in 2005, 39 of my hits had gone to right field. This year, they said only 13 of my hits had gone to right.
“Well, in 2005, they pitched me everything away. So I slapped the ball to right field.
“Then, last year, they started throwing me change-ups and breaking balls in, a bunch of which I was able to hit out of the ballpark.
“This year, there’s no pattern. They’re all over the place on me.”
Comment by Shark — March 1, 2008 #
I can’t find the original media reports, but if you Google “brandon inge ted williams babe ruth” you’ll see a few references to it. It was pretty well reported on here in Detroit when he said it.
One of the Google hits is labeled “Mossisms - 2008, week 7″ which is from a local blog that is pretty funny sometimes. This particular blog post rips him for letting his wife speak up for him (when he wasn’t speaking to the media), talking about how getting replaced by Cabrera was so tough for him to deal with. You know, how hard it was for Brandon to get out of bed each day after the trade was made. Just broke his wittle heart, the poor baby.
Comment by Tiger Fan — March 1, 2008 #
Can’t we just trade Pierre and get nothing back? I would be happy with that.
Brandon Inge…eek!
Comment by grabarkewitz — March 1, 2008 #
Accordning to the stats used to measure defense, Inge is the best defensive Third Baseman in the majors. I still think the Dodgers are being rediculous in not giving LaRoche the job…Remember, if not for injuries, Russ Martin and James Loney might still be trying to “earn” a job this spring.
Comment by Lexinthecityofroses — March 2, 2008 #
“Accordning to the stats used to measure defense, Inge is the best defensive Third Baseman in the majors.”
Accordning to the stats used to measure offense, Inge is the worst offensive Third Baseman in the majors.” ;)
Comment by CarolinaBlues — March 4, 2008 #
[...] Mike Scioscia’s Tragic Illness lists about 437 reasons the Dodgers should not be interested in Inge, noting that the Dodgers would end up downgrading at third base, paying more salary to do so and weakening their bullpen in the process. And yeah, they don’t like his facial hair either. [...]
Pingback by St. Louis Cardinals » Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Brandon Inge — March 7, 2008 #
Brandon Inge has turned off his stalwart Tigers fans with his sissy attitude (i don’t wanna catch daddy) so much that they should GIVE him away to any takers. (and pay his RIDICULOUS Randy smithesque salary) what were they thinkIng?
Comment by MTJ — March 7, 2008 #