I Guess I’ve Got No Choice

November 25, 2008 at 11:01 pm | Posted in Andy Pettitte, Jack Wilson, Mike Lowell, rumors, T.J. Simers, Trevor Hoffman | 11 Comments

Sweet merciful crap! The rumors! My god, the rumors. You know, usually I look forward to this time of year so much, because what’s more fun than the Hot Stove League? Wondering what big name will don the Dodger blue for the first time, trying to figure out how all the puzzle pieces will fit together for the next year. It’s wonderful.

Until the 400th time you hear some two-bit reporter come up with a non-sourced rumor that only benefits his hometown team and somehow gains legs, that is. I’ve heard some people complain that the Dodgers have somehow been dragging their feet in not making any moves yet, but I just don’t see it. We all know that the big-time free agents always wait as long as possible before signing, and other than that the only moves have really been the Giants signing Jeremy Affeldt and the Marlins making a few salary dumps.

Anyway, things have really been coming to a head the last few days, despite the fact that we all know nothing is going to happen until at least the December 1 arbitration deadline and likely not until the December 8 winter meetings, so I figure it’s time to check into some of these.

* Good god, Jack Wilson again? Via MLBtraderumors, FOXsports.com’s Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Dodgers are interested in trading for Pirates SS Jack Wilson, but that the price (Chin-Lung Hu, Delwyn Young, and a third player) was deemed too high. This isn’t the first time we’ve heard Wilson rumors floating around, and at least this is a little more palatable than when we’d heard Matt Kemp was involved over the summer. But come on, three players for Jack Wilson? He’s known to be a good defender and a below-average bat. Which sounds like, oh, I don’t know… Chin-Lung Hu? I don’t think that Hu’s going to get a shot to be the Opening Day shortstop, but if we’re going to have a good field/no hit guy there, I think I’d rather the guy who’s not getting paid $7.25 million in 2009, is especially atrocious in Dodger Stadium (.558 OPS), and is costing several young players to acquire. At least Hu’s got some upside. PASS.

* Wait, Andy Pettitte? Also from Ken Rosenthal, Andy Pettitte has apparently spoken with Joe Torre about a reunion in Los Angeles. If true, this is a tough call. On one hand, he’ll be 37 next year, is coming off the worst year of his career (plus a 5.35 ERA in the second half) and after having made $16 million in each of the last three years, is unlikely to want to take much of a pay cut. On the other hand… actually, I don’t think there is another hand. I wouldn’t mind giving him a shot at a more reasonable price, but if he wants $16 million or anything close to it? I’d rather have Eric Stults. Somehow I feel Torre would disagree with me. PASS.

* Okay, Ken, I see you, you can stop making a scene. Clearly just trying to get my attention, Rosenthal seems to have the Dodgers in on just about everyone, so let’s finish with him right here. He’s also suggesting that the Dodgers A) should sign Trevor Hoffman and B) could be interested in acquiring Mike Lowell. Though I disagree that Jonathan Broxton needs to be “protected” or somehow can’t be trusted, I’m not against signing Hoffman at the right price. He might be 41, but he still bested his career WHIP last year. If the price is right? Why not. As for Lowell, he’s 35, injured, and owed $25 million. Just because he’s old, busted, expensive and a Red Sox doesn’t mean that he has to end up with the Dodgers. Oh… right. Of course it does. OKAY and PASS.

* I agree with T.J. Simers?! I hate it when this happens, but at least this time it’s just joining together to acknowledge that Bill Plaschke is awful.

I GO away and Plaschke immediately makes the case again not to bring back Manny Ramirez, while suggesting the Dodgers trade for Jake Peavy, Adrian Beltre and “count on the kids.”

Sounds like I’m not the only one in need of some time off.

* Come on Giants! I know the “Edgar Renteria signs with Giants” rumors were proven false (so far), but a man can still have a rooting interest. What could be better than your hated rival, supposedly in a rebuilding stage, committing $18 million and a draft pick to sign an over-the-hill shortstop? Renteria to the Giants! Feel the holiday spirit – if you believe in it hard enough, it can happen!

* And those other guys? Right, CC, Manny, and Furcal. Look, I think we all know the deal with these three. CC’s got an enormous offer on the table from the Yankees, but hasn’t accepted it yet. Manny got an expensive but short-term offer from the Dodgers, which was quickly rejected while Scott Boras tries to get someone to literally sign their souls over to him. Furcal… well, don’t keep your hopes up. By the time you read this, he might have signed with the Giants or A’s, but more likely he’s not going anywhere for a few weeks. Unfortunately, it does seem that where he does end up, it won’t be in Los Angeles – not when he’s (apparently) receiving four year offers. After all the injuries we watched him suffer through in his three year deal, don’t expect the Dodgers to beat that this time.

- Mike Scioscia’s tragic illness msti-face.jpg

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  1. Yes, the Midget is killing me. On Wilson, I couldn’t agree more. Hu for Wilson, straight up, is a steal for the Pirates. Ned should tell Huntingdon, thanks, but no thanks.

    Onto Pettitte. No freakin’ way unless he takes less that what it would take to sign Randy Johnson. As it sits right now, I doubt that the Idiot Brothers (Ned & Frank) are even listening to Joe, so this is a non-starter.

    Hoffman, now I can be on board for this move for only one reason – it would be like kneeing all four Padre fans in the nads in one fell swoop. Good fun for the whole family.

    Be careful Mike, agreeing with Simers can lead to baldness, halitosis and imminent mental instability.

    Lastly, Renteria is going to sign with the Giants, my six foot invisible friend told me so.

  2. You know what the worst part about that Renteria thing is? The Dodgers are probably going to settle for Orlando Cabrera, and he’ll probably cost the same. :o

  3. Too true, Kensai. But, I still doubt that Beane would drop a four year deal on Furcal and his back for $12 million per. It just doesn’t strike me as a Beane type move.

    That being said, I would rather see Izzy and his Slap-like offense at short than paying for three or four years of Orlando Cabrera.

    Of course, if all things were equal, I would prefer to see Raffy at shortstop in ’09.

  4. Raffy has been hurt…granted. Still got some time out of him…more than Jason Schmidt. 2007 was Repko’s fault. Given that Raffy had back surgery and still put up good numbers, I’d say 2008 wasn’t a complete bust.

    Unfortunately, all this is in Ned’ and Frank’s less than capable hands.

    Enjoy your holidays.

  5. I’d love to see you comment on the LA Times article this morning…”We have a serious question to ask our fans: Would you rather we try and improve the team, or build a bunch of little league parks around the county? It’s a serious question and we’d love to know.” -Jamie McDumbarse

  6. Roberto, I was gonna ask Mike and Vin the same thing.

    To say I was irate after reading the article is an understatement. I can’t wait to see what the Dodgers DON’T do this offseason now.

    In related news, Luis Maza was re-signed…to a minor league contract.

  7. Almost forgot – there’s a good read over at Dodger Thoughts, as Jon Weisman makes a case for the McCourts to get their heads examined.

    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/

  8. I was aghast when I read that article this morning too. Haven’t been able to get to it yet due to work, but believe me I’ve got some thoughts on it. Hopefully tonight.

  9. After reading Hot Lips’ remarks, all I can say is that the Nuclear Winter is upon us and we can look forward to a $75 million that has 2/3′s of it lost in the sunk cost of Slap, .158 and the Invisible Man. Oh goody, we will be the Pirates, next year…kudos Frank & Jamie, kudos!

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  11. [...] right (and let’s not even get into “Brain” Cashman), this backs up what I said the other day about signing Pettitte – that’s he’s done, cooked, and not worth anywhere near the [...]


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