It's Time to Bring Down the Hindenburg
By Mike Scioscia's tragic illness | December 30, 2008 at 7:18 AM | In Andruw Jones, Luis Castillo, bad photoshopping | 16 Comments
Guillén sería la contraparte de Andruw Jones, que le hace un favor a los contrarios cuando está en la alineación.
Which roughly translates to "Andruw Jones does a favor to the opposition every time he's in the lineup." Remember, we're not talking about facing Jake Peavy in PetCo Park, here. This is a league in which Jones' teammate (and recent Dodger minor-league signee) Hector Luna has already parked 7 balls out of the yard - and this is a guy with 11 homers in 703 career MLB at bats. If Jones is getting overmatched down there, what possible hope does he have in the bigs? No me gusta!
So this is what it's come down to, then. He has to be elsewhere, anywhere, by Opening Day. No matter what, it's going to cost the Dodgers an enormous amount of money and embarassment, but we can at least minimize the onfield damage, since there's just no way he's going to contribute. Below this hilariously bad yet completely accurate Photoshop joke, we'll take a look at the options.
Keep him. Hah! Just kidding. Besides for the very obvious fact that he's probably a worse hitter than Hong-Chih Kuo right now, he'll be very unhappy sitting on the bench, and that will just cause more problems. I would much rather have Jason Repko happily playing all three positions, pinch-running, plus being a more dangerous bat, than I would seeing Jones mope around all season.
Cut him. Tempting. Very, very tempting, and it would be the quickest end to this saga. But it's ultimately pointless, because then you're still on the hook for every penny of the $22.1m still due him, while setting him free for some other team to sign him for the minimum and give him a chance to turn things around. If we could save even a few dollars by doing this, I'd be all for it, but there's just not much upside here - at least to start the season.
Trade him. Clearly, this would be the most desirable outcome, but unfortunately it's also the least likely. We all did somersaults when we read the rumors about talks with the Mets yesterday, even though we knew from the start it wasn't going to go anywhere. There's only three ways a deal gets done: 1) if Colletti eats almost 100% of the salary, which sort of defeats the purpose, 2) if the Dodgers throw in good prospects to reduce the money they have to eat, which already worked out disastrously to save $2m in the Casey Blake deal, or 3) if the Dodgers take back a bad contract in return. In the case of the Mets, that means 2B Luis Castillo, who was foolishly signed to a 4-year deal before 2008, only to spend most of the season injured or ineffective (below average both offensively and defensively according to FanGraphs). Castillo makes $6m over each of the next three seasons and at 33, is unlikely to bounce back. Even better, the Dodgers have no use for him, since he's not a utility player (he only plays 2B), and the Dodgers have Blake DeWitt and Mark Loretta at the position with Chin-Lung Hu and Ivan DeJesus in reserve. But the one thing Castillo does have is that his bad deal is spread out over three more seasons, allowing for some more flexibilty this year. Would I trade Jones and his $22.1m remaining for Castillo and his $18m remaining, plus throw in $5-6m to make up the difference? Possibly, if only for the payroll manuevering. But I think we all know there's no way this deal is happening.
Shoot him. They put down horses, don't they?
Demote him. I know, I know - the team can't do this without Jones' consent, as he has more than five years service time in the bigs. He would have every right to decline this move and force the club to either release him or keep him on the active roster. But you know what? I don't know that he'd be against this, at least initially. He gets his money no matter what, so that's not an issue. I think if the Dodgers said to him, "look, you're not going to be a big part of this team right now. You're going to sit on the bench, maybe get some pinch-hit at-bats at best, and that's no way to get your career turned around. You need to play every day and we can't offer that to you right now" he might consider it. After all, he was pretty successful in his short stint in AAA last year (.323/.361/.710 with 4 HR in 31 AB), so it seems that the opportunity to go down there to get his confidence back while beating up on minor leaguers is what's best for both him and the Dodgers. If he proves he can still hit, maybe he can be useful in LA - or maybe it would facilitate a deal. Either way, this is better than releasing him because you still hold on to the 0.5% chance he turns it around without hurting the Dodgers every day.
- Mike Scioscia's tragic illness

Discussion
16 Comments on "It's Time to Bring Down the Hindenburg"
#1
Posted by grabarkewitz, December 30, 2008 8:42 AM
I vote we shoot him! But, realistically, there is no way Boras will let us or him restructure his contract to facilitate a trade and I can't see him even beating out Pinball for a roster spot (although I think Pinball is likely the 26th man, anyway - especially if we keep Slap), so it may come to some day in the middle of May and we release the fat bastid. Of course there is hope he strains a layer of fat and sits out the season so that the Brand can collect the insurance.
BTW, has anyone offered the Hindenburg to Bowden? He is his kind of player.
#2
Posted by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 30, 2008 8:48 AM
Damn, Torgy! I had posted this for about 30 seconds and I already had a comment. You're good.
I agree Boras won't touch the deal, but I just can't see Jones on the 25 man to start the season. I would LOVE to let him go down to Albuquerque and let him hit there.
#3
Posted by Phil Gurnee, December 30, 2008 9:48 AM
Come on, less then 20 at bats after not playing for 3 months with no spring training. He may indeed be toast but let's at least give him some semblance of a shot.
#4
Posted by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 30, 2008 10:29 AM
I'll grant that 16 winter at-bats aren't much of a sample size, but no one can really be holding out any hope that he's actually going to be useful to the team in 2009, are they?
#5
Posted by Phil Gurnee in reply to comment from Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 30, 2008 10:52 AM
Yes, until they carry away his carcass I have hope. I am certainly on the outside looking in. In the recent poll I did he only got 8 votes out of 186 for a real bounceback season.
http://www.truebluela.com/2008/12/26/702409/andruw-jones-dwl-update
#7
Posted by kennerbuggy, December 30, 2008 6:32 PM
Hey - where's the troll posts - I thought that was a guaranteed feature of this site ????
Wouldn't releasing the Hindenberg amount to untethering him?
I dunno, I think I'd miss that silly smile of his after doing his ceiling fan gig at the dish and then walking back to the dug-out.
I'd do the deal with the Mess for Castillo in a heartbeat if it was just moving a few $M around, but I gotta think the Mess were driving a harder bargain when whatever talks occurred.
#8
Posted by grabarkewitz in reply to comment from Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 30, 2008 9:47 PM
I gotta rent me a life. I was supposed to be golfing, but the missus changed our tee times - so I hang around waiting for someone to say or do something. Hell, I even considered conversing with your troll.
#9
Posted by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 31, 2008 5:33 AM
Come on Torgy, isn't talking about baseball more fun than golfing?
#10
Posted by grabarkewitz in reply to comment from Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 31, 2008 5:52 AM
It depends on how well I am playing. Yesterday was much fun running the eighteen bases.
I hope the baseball stuff is interesting, because ain't no one golfing today. Visibility is being measured in quarter inch increments.
#11
Posted by Kirk Gibson's 23rd biggest fan in reply to comment from Mike Scioscia's tragic illness, December 31, 2008 8:50 PM
We must always root for the impossible to happen.
#12
Posted by Table, January 1, 2009 1:38 PM
The only situation comparable to that of Jones has got to be what happened in SpaceJam.
#13
Posted by TehCodge, January 3, 2009 9:19 AM
I can't disagree with any of the performance comments about the Druw but the references to his enormity are currently out of date. See the youTube clip on Diamond Leung's site, it appears that he has already lost weight for the winter league. I'll give him an 'E' for effort for that alone. Of course, that in no way helps him hit the low and away pitch.
#14
Posted by TehCodge, January 3, 2009 9:22 AM
I can't disagree with any of the performance comments about the Druw but the references to his enormity are currently out of date. See the youTube clip on Diamond Leung's site, it appears that he has already lost weight for the winter league. I'll give him an 'E' for effort for that alone. Of course, that in no way helps him hit the low and away pitch.
#15
Posted by TehCodge, January 3, 2009 9:23 AM
I can't disagree with any of the performance comments about the Druw but the references to his enormity are currently out of date. See the youTube clip on Diamond Leung's site, it appears that he has already lost weight for the winter league. I'll give him an 'E' for effort for that alone. Of course, that in no way helps him hit the low and away pitch.
#16
Posted by TehCodge, January 3, 2009 9:24 AM
Sorry for the triple post, but it wasn't showing up after I hit submit.
A rookie mistake.












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