Comments on: MSTI’s 2009 in Review: Second Base

By: Salle

Salle — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:31:32 +0000

From what I’ve read around various blogs, the Dodgers offer for Lee was comparable to Phillies. With that said, Indians fans is probably not doing jumping jacks since the Phillies players who came aren’t exactly ripping it up.

By: bayareadfan

bayareadfan — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:20:21 +0000

I agree. My point was more along the lines of using Haeger or even Weaver to get the job done. I don’t think either one would have been a disaster, but it turned out Jon did a good job. We just paid too much.

By: Mike Scioscia's tragic illness

Mike Scioscia's tragic illness — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:31:14 +0000

All fair points. I’m more mad at McCourt for forcing us to give up a better prospect for less salary, than I am at Colletti for doing it.

By: Hamlet

Hamlet — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:24:36 +0000

Like you guys, I wasn’t a big fan of the Abreu trade either, but at the time it was made, I understood it. You gotta remember Kuroda had just gone down and you couldn’t bank on him returning to form. He eventually did and Padilla turned out better than anyone thought, which made Garland’s presence in the playoffs pointless, but on Aug. 31, Colletti couldn’t bank on that. Plus, Billingsley wasn’t exactly pitching well at the time either. Colletti made that move as insurance just in case the shit hit the fan. Garland isn’t very good, but he’s capable of being adequate in the playoffs.

On Oct. 29, it’s easy to say we didn’t need Garland and it’s idiotic to give up a valuable piece like Abreu for six regular season starts. But it was not that easy of a decision two months earlier. How would we have evaluated a non-move two months later had the worst-case scenarios played out?

By: Erich

Erich — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:24:22 +0000

Hudson at the 5th highest OPS for a 2B in the NL, and 13th highest in MLB. So I’d say a B is warranted given his defense and intangibles.

That being said, being 5th in the NL and 13th in MLB is amazing, we have a guy in our system who can duplicate those numbers at 1/6th the cost. Oh wait, no we don’t, we have 6 Jon Garland starts instead, my bad.

I predict Abreu will bite us in the ass worse than Santana.

By: bayareadfan

bayareadfan — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:20:29 +0000

Hudson: not a huge shock that he’s not coming back. After all, he was quoted in the Times like 2 months ago as saying he wouldn’t be back. That was after Belliard joined the team and starting taking away PA from Hudson. Still, he had a good year and was the consumate clubhouse professional, and usually the first guy waiting in the dugout to high five a teammate who just scored or hit a home run. Thanks for the year, Orlando.

Belliard: Turned out to be a great pickup. I’ll never forget the Slam off Penny, and the follow-up 2 run ’single’ off the bucket in RF that he hit off Timmy the next day. It was great to read McC and see how much he got into the Giant’s fans heads, especially since they knew they’re team screwed up by not signing him.

Abreu: Keeping the Topps theme, he should be in the Topps Traded set, no doubt. Have to agree, why give him up for 6 starts of Garland? Jon was actually pretty good (something many fans seemed to not notice) for the Dodgers, but we really didn’t need him. So long, Tony.

By: Dr. Geek

Dr. Geek — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:09:48 +0000

I took the acquisition of Garland as Colletti and company throwing smoke and mirrors in the direction of Dodger fans and the ace-fawning press.

It was a complete BS move meant to satisfy all the calls over acquiring a pitcher.

By: Mike Scioscia's tragic illness

Mike Scioscia's tragic illness — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:46:03 +0000

Couldn’t agree with you more. There was NEVER a good reason for that move.

By: Mike Scioscia's tragic illness

Mike Scioscia's tragic illness — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:45:19 +0000

You’re a Doctor AND a Geek! You’re no simpleton, my friend.

By: gillbert

gillbert — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:41:03 +0000

Talking of the indians. No matter how it turned out for us,i can tell you one thing. I’m glad i’m not an indians fan. Watching game one of the world series had to suck, the two picters used to be theirs. That would be like in two years if Kershaw and bilz(Please no) head line the world seris for 2 different teams. Now that sucks!