Comments on: How Do We Feel About Moving Andre Ethier?

By: Mike Scioscia's tragic illness

Mike Scioscia's tragic illness — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:09:16 +0000

I didn’t say I wanted to trade him, just that with the current state of the Dodgers financially, that it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if they tried to trade him while he’s at his highest value.

By: dodgerluv65

dodgerluv65 — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:22:55 +0000

are you guys crazy!
Andre Ethier helped us big last year, he hasnt
even peaked fully yet, and your idea is to trade him?
haha. get rid of Manny and we’ll have plenty of money.
we already got rid of Wolf and Pierre so why need to worry?
next up….Mcdonald, Broxton, Sherril?, Trons.
I Dont know, but trading Ethier would be a HUGE mistake!!!!!!!!!

By: Bluefan

Bluefan — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:24:58 +0000

Speaking a bit about the Royals above. If not Greinke, KF has noted that KCR might be interested in dealing Meche. Would a package that started with Pierre get it done (I’d even throw in a low amount of cash).

Say CF Juan Pierre + C AJ Ellis + $3.5m (10: $2.5m/11: $1.0m).

That would give the Royals a CF/Leadoff Hitter, plus a catcher we know they like and a 2010 savings of ~ $4-$5m.

We would get rid of Pierre and replace him on the roster with a league minimum guy (Paul or Hoffman) and replace Wolf’s spot in the rotation with Meche at the same salary difference of $4-$5m that was mentioned above. I doubt we could sign a better FA starter this off-season for less.

Would this be enough to entice the Royals?

By: Bluefan

Bluefan — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:11:07 +0000

I have flirted with the idea of trading Ethier this off-season as well, and I do like some of the names mentioned.

ATL: RH Jair Jurrjens

CWS: LH John Danks (though the CWS also have his lil’ bro in system)

BOS: RH Clay Buccholz (and wife) though I would try to get the switch hitting Lowrie as part of the deal as well. He could be a good 2B option, or at the very least a nice back up at 2B, SS and 3B.

The team that came to mind for me was the Royals. They have one top bat in 1B/DH Billy Butler, with no one to protect him, have solid pitching prospects coming up through the system (LH Dwyer, RH Melville, LH Duffy, LH Montgomery, RH Crow) and have been recent trading partners with the Dodgers. We also have been linked to them in this off-season’s rumor mill (Callaspo for Ellis), and have a few solid prospects with local ties to their team (LH Elbert, C May, IN DeWitt). I wonder what it would take to get Greinke and his reasonable contract (2010: $7.5m/2011: $13.5m/2012: $13.5m).

The only downside I saw to trading Ethier, is that the number of quality LH bats in MLB is few and far between. I guess that would help his trade value, but it would be very difficult for us to find a replacement, unless we got lucky with a rebound guy like Ankiel or Huff.

I would also add in Toronto as a possible trade partner. Not for Halladay but for a couple of young guys from the likes of LH Brett Cecil, OF Travis Snider and RH Josh Roenicke.

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On another note, I honestly wonder what the Tigers are asking for for Edwin Jackson. Many of us have said it before, but they need a closer and both Sherrill and Jackson are set to make $4- $5 million next year. Sherrill and what would be amicable.

Though a bigger deal involving big contracts (LAD: Pierre/DET: Guillen) would be interesting.

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By: kensai

kensai — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:47:37 +0000

I was so close to strangling you. :o

By: johnny

johnny — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:24:50 +0000

whats the possibility of him signing to the D-backs since he has a home out there…oh man sorry just got the Shawn Green flash back shakes

By: Dusto

Dusto — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:14:25 +0000

No mention of Edwin Jackson? I thought up of a bigger deal though that would help us both out.

Pierre, Ethier, McDonald, and Loney for Jackson, Guillen, Granderson, and Willis.

Guillen plays first. Granderson mans center. Jackson finds a nice new cozy home in the rotation and Willis can breathe some fresh air in LA to get his head straight…

seems a bit unlikely simply because the Dodgers would be taking on almost 30 million (2010) while Detroit would only take on 17-18 million. AND Willis is all but done in the majors. AND the Dodgers still have a hole to fill at second, because I still dont think that Colletti is comfortable giving the full time gig to Dewitt. I can almost guarantee he will sign some crafty “veteran” and Torre will start him 3 months too long before finally putting in Dewitt full time just to see him flourish!

By: grabarkewitz

grabarkewitz — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:59:50 +0000

Marty, all we have left is the isms, pessimism and optimism. Pessimism is easy – just look at the clown who owns this team. He would make Santa Claus pessimistic. Optimism is definitely harder. I can say that we can be optimistic because the Giants have no hitting save Sandoval, the Rockies have Jim Tracy, the Snakes have AJ Hinch (look up brown-noser, you will find his picture with his lips attached to Josh Byrnes ass) and the Padres are even more broke ass than the Dodgers.

Of course, optimism ends there – we are not built to win it all and the broke assclown who owns this team is spending most of his day trying to figure out how he can put a little league team on the field and still draw three million paying fans.

By: Ted

Ted — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:48:12 +0000

In an ideal world, you hold on to Ethier and Kemp until they’re old and broken and ready to DH. I think both of these guys can produce in a major way for a long time. No one predicted Ethier to get to where he is today, and I believe he is not quite at his peak.

That said, if you could get Jurjjens I say go for it, because pitchers like that are harder to find than corner OF. He has a track record the others on your list do not with the exception of Danks. Any of them would potentially give the Dodgers a new “Big 3″.

By: grabarkewitz

grabarkewitz — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:54:16 +0000

Mike, the thought of trading Ethier really pissed me off, but reality has a funny way of making the mind think clearer. An $80 million payroll is very likely for this team and we have to cut something. Ethier, Martin and Loney are the three most likely to face the blade.

The first thought was the Red Sox and their need for a left fielder and a first baseman (if only to justify jettisoning Mike Lowell). Knowing that Frank is a broke assclown, I am good (if good means only mildly running amok with an axe) with the idea of Buchholz and Lars Anderson for Loney and Ethier. We pare about $10 million off of the payroll and buy some more arbitration years.

As for Martin, I am guessing that his arb number will be in the $5 million + range, so dealing him to the Jays for Brad Snider and one of their young arms and then sending Snider and said arm to the White Sox for Tyler Flowers would work on cutting some more payroll. Yeah, it has flaws and it would require some of out of the box thinking – not Ned’s strong suit, but it is better than the hill of magic beans will likely get for Ethier if we deal him elsewhere.