Charlie Haeger’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day
May 9, 2010 at 10:50 am | Posted in Charlie Haeger | 19 Comments
Has there ever been a worse week of starting pitching in Dodger history? I’m not even sure how I’d go about researching something like that, but in the last week we’ve seen Clayton Kershaw not get out of the 2nd, Chad Billingsley allowing four runs in the 1st, Hiroki Kuroda allowing 14 baserunners in 5.1 IP, and then last night Charlie Haeger got as many Rockies out as I did – zero. If not for John Ely’s sparkling turn on Thursday, this trip through the rotation would have been a complete wash, and yet Ely was rewarded for that with a trip to AAA.
This team is in trouble, and they need to do something about it, now. After today’s game, I’ll be back with the moves that need to be made before the clock strikes midnight tonight, not only to get better players on the team but also to send a message that this kind of performance is just unacceptable. But feel free to post your own ideas in the comments first.
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The problem is easy to fix which I in a way the worst part. The team went cheap in the off-season. Which is not bad but the few players they signed are not good. The Padilla signing was god but everyone else was terrible. Torre lives in the past in a way so he thinks old means better which is kinda sad. Just bring in player who can play and things will take care of itself.
Comment by ramo— May 9, 2010 #
“…sparkling turn on Thursday…yet Ely was rewarded for that with a trip to AAA.”
Okay, so here’s a chart for young Dodger pitchers. If you get called up to the bigs and throw a…
1) shutout, you’ll get sent back to AAA
2) no hitter, back to AA
3) perfect game, back to A, if you’re lucky, you could also be released for such insubordination
Comment by mk— May 9, 2010 #
In as optimistic tone as possible, I think the best thing long-term for this team would be utter implosion RIGHT NOW.
I don’t know the Dodger’s farm system, and it looks like arms help is on the way according to http://projectprospect.com/article/2009/12/15/top-25-nl-west-prospects … if Torre sticks around, and the front office is content with going cheap then the next few years could be unbearable.
What magnitude of a meltdown would it take for both Torre and Colletti to be shown the door?
Comment by wynams— May 9, 2010 #
…..Ubaldo the Menace? Clayton the Cur? Cut Anderson of course. Can’t trade Sherill at low point value. Nobody is selling this early right? I don’t know what’s much there is to does, other than cut the baggage vets and tweak with AAA callups some. I am all ears.
Comment by Table— May 9, 2010 #
There’s a little too much reward given for what a player has already done in the majors/for the Dodgers. I shouldn’t have to listen to Vinny praise Manny for making the play he’s being paid $20 MILLION to make. And what is with this “major league” attitude Xavier Paul needs to work on? He was hitting better than most of the lineup, last I checked.
I don’t think we can hold onto the same guys because they’ve gotten the job done before. Keep Ely and let’s see what the kid can do. Haeger has had his chances and he is obviously not quite there. Sherrill needs a vacation to figure himself out, it seems. Etc. etc.
Comment by Ben— May 9, 2010 #
Cut Anderson.
Cut Ortiz.
Cut Green.
-Trade Sherrill and Carroll for anything possible, unlikely as that is. Sherrill becomes a LOOGY otherwise.
-Hu, Ely, Paul, McDonald get called up.
-Haeger DL to let him work through his wildness and keep him from being cut.
Comment by KempKershaw— May 9, 2010 #
Unfortunately there is not too much the Dodgers can do for almost a week because of the ill advised moves they made on Friday and Saturday. So for the next 8 days they have to ride things out, but they should be ramping up their targets for trades or signings for starting pitching. However, come the 9th day, the easy decisions are DFA Anderson and bring up Paul and the same for Haeger and bring up Ely. If Sherill needs a DL visit than Ely can come up sooner.
The next move is making a decision early on who of the main free agent pitchers would be ready quickest to help the Dodgers, Martinez, Washburn, and Looper. The emotional side of me says Martinez, because his knowledge and experience might help our younger pitchers. Washburn is a Boras client, and he really faltered last year, so he wouldn’t get my vote. Looper I think doesn’t have much to offer, but since he is cheaper than the other two the Dodgers will probably sign him.
Comment by louisinsf— May 9, 2010 #
Perfect.
Comment by Ben— May 9, 2010 #
Give Sherril some blood thinners and make him shave with a really sharp razor. After an hour put him on the DL.
Comment by Ken— May 9, 2010 #
Look the decisions are no brainers and Ned AND Joe know them. Enough of this ‘veteran’ at bats and pitching that we have been hearing about for years. In the past when winning they were able to keep Kemp. Loney and Ethier down while playing used up Nomar and the rest. Bring up the kids (haven’t we heard that before),to sit on the bench as subs. dump the useless, cheap vets. Take the ‘risk’ of losing Hager and Ortiz
Comment by Davids— May 9, 2010 #
Now:
substitute Ely for Haeger
substitute Xman for Garrett Anderson
Axe ortiz. Try out lindblom, if necessary then mcDonald, then elbert, etc.
Let Sherril work it out with LA.
Trade Deadline:
We MUST land an ace. as of today, seattle (11-19) and CWS (13-19, 8 GB) look like the most logical partners. cliff Lee? Gavin Floyd? Peavy? Trade manny in a perfect world.
we might be weathering the storm now. errors are down. broxton is nasty. ethier needs to be knighted. series win within the NL west. Holy crapballs, Kershaw defeated Jimenez!
Comment by Ghost of Ortizii Present— May 9, 2010 #
Trade Manny? Insane, he’s the best pure hitter on the team still, the most consistent when healthy. And Gavin Floyd is an ace, but Kershaw and Billingsley are not?
Comment by KempKershaw— May 10, 2010 #
Of course. It’s so easy even a caveman can do it (raises hand).
Comment by Rob McMillin— May 10, 2010 #
Okay, so here’s my criteria.
* Must have at least 41 runs scored against in a one-week period, Sunday to Saturday.
* Must have at least 3 games with 8 or more runs scored against.
Using those two together brought up a huge list of candidates, 264 in all, and a number of them surprisingly recent:
* September 16-22, 2007, featuring two starts by Esteban Loiza (one of which ended up with the Dodgers surrendering 12 runs)
* July 15-21, 2007, with Lance Hendrickson and Derek Lowe coughing up a couple real stinkers
* July 16-23, 2006: Brad Penny, Derek Lowe, and Aaron Sele.
* May 8-14, 2005: Brad Penny, Derek Lowe, and Wilson Alvarez. Alvarez got the win!
* September 12-18, 2004: two bad games by Odalis Perez and one by Jeff Weaver.
So it’s not all that uncommon.
Comment by Rob McMillin— May 10, 2010 #
Lance Hendrickson?
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— May 11, 2010 #
Gah, not Lance Hendrickson, Mark Hendrickson. It’s a combination of Lance Henricksen, the actor who played Bishop the android in Aliens, and Lance Carter, a garbage-time reliever from the (then-Devil) Rays. I’ve always had a problem dissociating the two because they were questionable trades with Tampa Bay.
Comment by Rob McMillin— May 11, 2010 #
… the two being Hendrickson and Carter.
Comment by Rob McMillin— May 11, 2010 #
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