Let’s Pack It In
August 4, 2010 at 8:20 am | Posted in Jeff Weaver, Joe Torre, Manny Ramirez, Rafael Furcal, Russell Martin, Ted Lilly, Zach Lee | 47 Comments
Credit where credit is due: Ted Lilly was excellent last night. After allowing an early home run to Miguel Tejada, he retired twenty in a row and left having struck out five without issuing a walk. Now why, after just seven innings and 87 pitches, Joe Torre felt the need to replace him (once again, it’s not like Garret Anderson offers more at the plate than your standard pitcher) to squeeze another inning out of Hong-Chih Kuo is beyond me, but that’s pretty much par for the course, isn’t it?
So good for Lilly, and good for us. While I didn’t like the trade for a variety of reasons, none of them were because I thought Lilly was useless; he’s certainly an improvement on what Carlos Monasterios would have offered from that slot. Unfortunately, Lilly’s nice outing was somewhat obscured by all of the other bad news from yesterday, and there was quite a bit of it.
Injuries!
1) Jeff Weaver was placed on the DL with left knee tendinitis, and – stop me if you’ve heard this before – had concealed the injury from coaches for about two weeks, which I’m sure had nothing to do with his allowing ten earned runs in his last five games.
2) Manny Ramirez had what was termed “a setback” in his rehab, and no date has been set for his return. At this point, I’d be surprised to see him back before the end of August, which means those who advocate trading him should probably look for something else to do. Update: Buster Olney, via MLBTR, notes that players on the DL cannot be passed through waivers. I’d say the chances of Manny moving at this point are maybe 5%.
3) Russell Martin felt pain in his hip on an awkward slide last night and is headed for an MRI. While I’d usually joke that his absence wouldn’t really hurt the lineup that much, he did have the only two RBI to back up Lilly.
4) Perhaps worst of all, Rafael Furcal strained his back in Monday night’s game and required an MRI as well. He’s hoping to avoid the DL for now, but won’t play tonight either. Let’s not speculate too hard here, but when you have ever heard news that Furcal’s back hurts and had it end well?
The offense!
If not for the injuries and Lilly (and Kuo and Jonathan Broxton), the bigger story here would be that the offense, once again, was non-existent. Scott Podsednik and Ryan Theriot combined to go 1-8, with Podsednik 4-24 and Theriot 1-12 as Dodgers. Boy, who could have seen that coming? It’s not just them, of course, since Matt Kemp and Casey Blake each went hitless (though each walked, and scored on Martin’s hit), but once again the offense contributed nothing in eight of the nine innings.
With Manny no closer to returning and now Furcal & Martin possibly on the shelf, things don’t look like they’re headed in the right direction on the offensive side. And Torre’s not helping, because apparently he’s learned nothing from the Juan Pierre experience – it doesn’t matter how fast Podsednik and Theriot are, you simply cannot bat them 1-2 in the lineup if you expect to score any runs.
I get, of course, that Furcal’s absence doesn’t help him fill out the lineup card. Still, no one had a higher OBP in yesterday’s lineup than Jamey Carroll, and it’s not particularly close. Since Carroll looks like he’s going to be playing for the foreseeable future, he has to be hitting higher in the lineup in order to give the middle of the order a prayer of having people to drive in.
Of course, when the bottom 3rd of the lineup could be Ausmus-Theriot-pitcher, and the only reliable threat (Furcal) has been subtracted, it’s hard to get excited about any part of the lineup.
The draft!
Remember back in June, when the Dodgers drafted highly touted high schooler Zach Lee, and the pick was widely panned because Lee had a commitment to LSU and was considered unsignable? Yeah, about that…
Dodgers no closer to signing top pick
LOS ANGELES — There haven’t been any conversations between the Dodgers and first-round Draft pick Zach Lee since shortly after Lee was selected, assistant general manager of scouting Logan White said on Tuesday.
Lee, a 6-foot-4, 195-pound right-handed pitcher from Texas, was considered to be a difficult sign going into the Draft because of a commitment to play quarterback at Louisiana State and reported bonus demands in excess of $3 million. A day after the Dodgers took Lee at No. 28 overall in June, LSU issued a statement reaffirming Lee’s desire to play college football.
“We had get-to-know-you dialogues when we first drafted him, and that’s it,” White said. “… He likes football, he likes baseball. He’s a good kid.”
Granted, most of these negotiations do tend to go right to the deadline; you’ll notice that most of the other first-rounders haven’t signed yet either. Still: wonderful.
Which all means…
Yesterday’s win aside, the Dodgers are still seven games out in the wild card, and any hopes they have for postseason play rest on them putting together a historic run. With the offensive performance and the injuries piling up, does anyone really have faith in that happening?
It’s hard to say this, but it’s time to be realistic. Lilly’s debut was nice, but it only covered up more offensive shortcomings, and now without Furcal, Martin and Manny this team really has no prayer. I never thought I’d say this three days after the trading deadline, but it’s time to sell. See what’s out there for guys like Lilly, Podsednik, Octavio Dotel – maybe even Vicente Padilla, Hiroki Kuroda, and Casey Blake, if you could get out from under his salary for next year. I’d rather finish ten games out with pieces for the future, than six games out with nothing to show for it.
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Update: Found this on Olney’s blog today, and thought it was interesting. Former catcher (and ex-Dodger Brent Mayne) checks in from time to time with Olney about the finer points of catching, and today they were discussing Carlos Santana getting destroyed by Ryan Kalish while blocking the plate in Boston. Mayne was asked if he thinks catchers should block the plate at all, and, well, you’ll see the part that caught my eye.
“I think catchers should do it — BUT learn how to do it right. I believe if you make the play correctly (which Mayne goes into extensively in his book, ‘The Art of Catching’) you end up with some momentum going into the play (as opposed to being a sitting duck) and you end up as low as you can get without laying down. Which is super important because, if you’ve ever played football, you know the lowest guy usually wins. My technique also gets your knees into a safe position … a position that if you’ve hit the knee will bend in the direction God intended it to bend. Unfortunately for Santana, he did the goofy ‘hockey goalie, throw the leg out’ thing. You’ll also see Russell Martin making that same move and I’ll guarantee the same thing will happen to him as Santana one of these days. I actually don’t even consider that ‘blocking the plate’ … it’s more like just getting your leg in the way. And it’s a disaster waiting to happen.”
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Agreed on being a seller; I thought we should have been sellers before the deadline. This heartless and brittle team needs to be broken up. Giants and Padres will only get better in the offseason, while we will be in divorce court. I’m
not looking forward to 2011 but we need to do what we can now to make next year’s pain more tolerable.
Comment by Jeff— August 4, 2010 #
I was also a seller before the deadline but the more I see Colletti’s results the more I’m fearful of letting him handle any transactions.
Comment by west coast ram— August 4, 2010 #
This is a very reasonable fear, one I should have noted. However, I’d hope that if they sell, the “WIN NOW!” portion will be removed, so hopefully it won’t be as bad.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
Not sure if you saw this already, but Mike Sciosica returns to The Simpsons:
http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/2010/08/the-simpsons-spoilers-season-22-to-feature-daniel-radcliffe-facebook-founder-mark-zuckerberg-more.html
Comment by QFR— August 4, 2010 #
Hearing all the injury news yesterday certainly tempered any enthusiasm over a rare, recent win. Any back situtation like Furcal’s is like a walking time bomb, so he could be out a couple of days or the rest of the season. Somehow, the “good” news from his MRI and our crack medical team’s diagnosis doesn’t make me feel any better. If Martin goes on the DL, we don’t lose all that much. Sorry to see him get hurt, but that was just a stupid baserunning play coming into the plate standing up. If he slides, the catcher never gets a tag on him.
Speaking of baserunning, is it just me, or has this team made more baserunning blunders…I’m talking head up your ass plays…than any Dodger team in recent memory? Hey, and it’s not like they are getting all that many opportunities at base running.
Comment by SamAdams— August 4, 2010 #
Sell. But I don’t agree that this is a heartless and brittle team, just unfortunately constructed. The bullpen imploded. The offense does not function without Manny who cannot be relied on. The bench sucks but that was no surprise. The only part of the team that achieved anywhere near expected this season was the starting pitching. I say start building for next season.
Comment by Stephen Dimig— August 4, 2010 #
If anything, I’d say the rotation exceeded expectations. But I agree with you otherwise.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
Sorry, but I disagree. Matt Kemp admitted yesterday in the LA Times he hasn’t given it all he has. This team cowers and relents against any pitcher with an era south of four. Hell, even Vinny said it a couple weeks ago calling them “lost.” Last year it seems like we won every tough game, this year every game seems tough.
Comment by Jeff— August 4, 2010 #
The bottom line of the eighth inning is that you had the 6, 7, 8 guys batting against a reliever. Why Torre goes to Kuo like that is beyond me. And just because we won doesn’t discount the fact that Lilly was rolling and probably could’ve had a complete game. I guarantee you Billingsley was not going into the ninth inning with his shutout if Torre was managing that day.
Comment by Dave— August 4, 2010 #
The obvious explanation for going to Kuo is that Torre has an important if overtly unacknowledged clause in his contract: a pitching change incentive.
Comment by WBB— August 4, 2010 #
A good place to start, before stupidly dealing more players, would be replacing McTorrenetti. You’ve got to get the head right, before the body can perform.
Comment by Jim Brewer— August 4, 2010 #
MSTI-One of pet peeves is players keeping injuries secret. They screw up for a month then the news comes out and they go on th DL after the damage is done. How many games did weaver give away?? I think we need to get some guy like Tony Soprano to ‘talk’ to just one guy and that would solve the problem for good. Poor Ethier that broken finger wrecked his season but at least we know about it.
Comment by Davids— August 4, 2010 #
Couldn’t agree more, and how many times has this happened? Eric Gagne, Brad Penny… the list goes on and on.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
I just added an update to the post. Buster Olney notes that players on the DL cannot be passed through waivers. Manny’s not going anywhere.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
Wondering if a pitcher has ever been removed with a lead, having retired the last 20 batters in succession. Torre re-invents the art of managing, and through luck, it worked out this time. (except Kuo is probably unavailable tonight and that could be a factor.)
Comment by SamAdams— August 4, 2010 #
Exactly. Lilly was showing no signs of trouble, the situation (2 outs, man on 1st) didn’t dictate he be hit for, and the bottom of the lineup was coming up. So you take out a guy who’s flying along in order to put another inning on Kuo’s arm and probably take him out of the mix tonight?
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
of coarse I agree MSTI. the dodgers arent winning for another general reason, they refuse to go with their best 25 man roster. theyve done this all season long, choosing to go with worthless players all because they dont want to “hurt their feelings” by releasing them, or because their “veteran precenses” in the clubhouse.
also this team will never win with Torre as manager. his poor in game skills have cost the dodgers at least 4 or 5 games since the all star break. I wont put 100% of the blame on him, but the dodgers have solid effective starting pitching, and if somehow they can stop wasting spaces on guys like anderson, sherrill, belliard. and figure out a way to start scoring runs, then they would be alot closer to first place then they are right now.
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
Torre’s bizarre replacing of Lilly after he got the previous 20 batters out in a row and only threw 87 pitches through 7 innings makes me wonder if Torre is hitting on all eights. Maybe this is what happened: Torre says to his Honey, “you know, Lilly is pitching too good. Lets have a little fun and take him out. That will get the bloggers going and maybe we can turn victory into defeat. We’ve got to bring Kuo in in the 8th. He’s too good so we’ll save all the fun for the 9th when we can bring in Brox. He won’t fail us. Maybe he’ll do another Sherrill imitation, like he did against the Giants the other day, and you and i can have a good laugh, while the stupid Dodger fans eat their hearts out”. Poor Brox tried his best to please Torre but, finally, a little luck went our way amd Torre and Honey will have to save their little pranks for another day.
Comment by Joel Goldman— August 4, 2010 #
Updated with Mayne’s thoughts on Martin.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
Hundley did that same move to Russ last night although it was Martin who took to brunt of it because he went in standing up rather than sliding.
I’ve never understood the way Russ blocks the plate on throws home. He’s never in a good position to block it and almost never makes the play unless it’s a perfect throw with plenty of time.
I’m not sure he’ll get injured though because even though his leg is hanging out in a similar fashion, he doesn’t seem to use it to block the plate. Looks to be more of a pivot tool that’s out in front of the plate so he can swing and make the tag, rather than blocking the 3B side. Although I may just be going off small sample size from the few times I’ve seen him do it. I don’t recall any times he’s actually blocked the path to the plate except when he’s had the ball with ample time to position himself in front of it. Could definitely be wrong though.
Comment by Wil— August 4, 2010 #
I agree with what everyone is saying about selling, Torre pinch hitting for Lilly and Kemp…why no mention of how stupid Russell Martin is though? If he slides last night like you are taught in Little League he is safe…the Dodgers have a 2 run lead…he is not hurt and Lilly probably stays in the game to finish it out.
I believe the baserunning this year has been atrocious up and down the lineup. Matt Kemp is just one part of that. I have seen time and time again Martin, Loney and others make huge game changing baserunning mistakes. I think its time we give that some attention as well as start to wonder if the coaches are coaching and if they want the players committed to winning it starts at the top!
Comment by Mike— August 4, 2010 #
hey MSTI, and everyone else, for the rest of the season I will be doing my daily tootblan updates! since MSTI was kind enough to introduce us to the world of tootblans, I think that they should be documented for the rest of the year. especially since the dodgers commit so many of them. looks like martin picked up another tootblan yesterday, while injuring himself. so as we head into august we have of coarse Kemp leading the way in tootblans!
stay tuned for more tootblan updates (thrown out on the bases like a nincompoop)
kemp-13
martin-3
reed johnson-1
loney-1
furcal-1
theriot 0-(note theriot has none so far as a dodger because you have to actually get on base to even have a chance of getting a tootblan)
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
I love the idea, but how did you end up with Kemp at 13? Did you really go back and rewatch every single game since the idea of the TOOTBLAN was established? I think it’s important to note that not every time a guy is thrown out on the bases, it was a bad play… sometimes we’ve seen our guys hustling to the plate and only a perfect throw can beat them, and the perfect throw actually happens.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
MSTI-lol your right, I should give Kemp a bit of a break. I just took his 13 CS attempts and ran with them. so in fairness I should take off half of his tootblans, even then he still has a good lead over martin with 6. im still giving martin a tootblan for last night, because if he had only just slid into home plate he might have beat the throw and not injured himself in the process.
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
Even then, I think a TOOTBLAN is more than just times caught stealing. Some CS aren’t even the runner’s fault, like if the batter swings through a hit-and-run. But there’s also been times he’s been stupidly caught just trying to advance, not even trying to steal.
Unfortunately its the sort of thing you can’t really measure in retrospect, you have to do it game by game.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
MSTI-your right, I need to recalculate my tootblan totals. but I still see Kemp leading the way. if a player gets picked off, or is thrown out trying to advance foolishly. so I think Kemp’s tootblan total will remain around 5 or 6 since he’s been picked off foolishly at least 3 or four times this season.
DA-thank you for reminding me! yes I will be giving theriot a tootblan for running into his own bunted ball. I agree that you have to based on the comedy factor. I will be recalculating and will have the official updated tootblan totals later tonight! stay tuned for more tootblan updates!
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
I think you need to give special consideration for Theriot’s bunt hitting him because of the comedy factor. To me, sort of like giving some longtime actors an honorary Oscar, you need to give Theriot a special, honorary TOOTBLAN for last night’s bunt attempt. That is all. Carry on.
Comment by The Dude Abides— August 4, 2010 #
My Random Dodger thoughts:
Torre’s azz kissing style of “managing” has permeated the team.
Colletti and Torre thought they were being cute when they said “we shall see” when asked about not picking up a pitcher during the off season. 8 games back is real cute.
If this were football or hockey Manny would play. Get him a cortisone shot and put him out there. He couldn’t run or feild before he was hurt so how bad could it be if he played on a hurt leg?
Matt Kemp said in the LA Times that he will begin to get out of the box and run. He promtly jogged in the other night costing the team a run.Now we know why Jeff Kemp thought Kemp was not respecting the game.
Let’s trade Broxton why teams still think he is valuable. For such a big man and hard thrower he sure does look tiny big situations.
Finishing 6-7-8 games back without working on the future serves zero purpose. Let’s build and treat the end of the season like the Padres did last year.
At least there is USC foot………..nevermind.
Comment by Adonis— August 4, 2010 #
Jeff Kemp?? Is that Matt’s brother? I remember Jeff Kent, the surly 2nd baseman who hurt himself one year riding a motocycle and then lying about how he got hurt. The same Jeff Kent who whined when Vin Scully accurately pointed out how his batting average shot up when Manny Ramirez (the 2008 version) was hitting behind him. I agree Matt Kemp has underachieved his year and should be a consistent 30-30 guy winning gold gloves. He also sometimes runs with a “I’ll keep going until I score or get thrown out” mentality. But I wouldn’t use Jeff Kent as a baromoter for player behavior.
Comment by 81gaucho— August 4, 2010 #
Yes that Jeff KENT. The one who called out Matt Kemp for not working hard enough on his craft. The same Kent who got into a fight with Barry Bonds because some Giant 3B made a stupid play in a big game. Yes Kent refused to give in to Scully for his batting average and yes he lied about an offthe field incident. The same Jeff Kent who will be in the HOF. Between the lines Kent played hard everynight something Kemp, Loney, Manny and (dare I say) Ethier don’t do every night.
What does it say when both Bowa and Kent have called out Matt Kemp for his lack of hustle? It says he needs to play the game the right way….something many of the Dodgers haven’t done since the All Star break.
Comment by Adonis— August 5, 2010 #
Torre reverted to his A.L. managing days (where the stupid DH rule means managers don’t even have to make a decision about hitting for a pitcher who is pitching well in a close game) – the decision to hit for Lilly was fundamentally wrong. As was the decision to pitch to Gonzalez in the 9th (fortunately he came to his senses after two pitches and walked him). One idea why there have been so many base running blunders is simply that the Dodger’s aren’t on base often enough and they forget what to do. Also, a major component of the TOOTBLAN stat has to be how many times you are thrown out at 3rd base for either the first or thrid out. Or being thrown out at 3rd with a ground ball hit in front of you, or being thrown out at home with nobody out…
Comment by Koufax32— August 4, 2010 #
I like the way you put that “fundamentally wrong”. Not debatable or reasonable judgement call. It doesn’t have shit to do with his resume…the f’n call was–just–wrong–period.
and he keeps on makin’ the same damn call. what is his deal with not letting his starters pitch?
Comment by marco942— August 4, 2010 #
If the Dodgers win the next two and Colorado beats SF, there will be 6 games between the 1st place Padres and the 4th place Rockies…still anybody’s title
Comment by JMod— August 4, 2010 #
MSTI-so after careful consideration, I have calculated the official tootblan totals! ok well its not really offical, but its the best I can do considering were almost two thirds of the way done with the season. so far Matt Kemp is in the lead for the tootblan crown, but martin is closing in fast. who will win the 2010 dodger tootlban crown? only time will tell…….
(thanks to MSTI and dude abides I have put together the criteria for what constitutes a tootblan. getting picked off, the angel game back in june comes to mind. ill advised steal attempts, trying to score from third on a ground ball when you have no chance in hell, ala brad asumas, and general baserunning blunders and lack of skills.)
2010 dodger tootblan totals
Kemp-5
martin-3
ausmas-1
reed Johnson-1-(for jogging to homeplate)
theriot-1*(honarary tootblan for runing into his own bunted ball)
loney-1
the 2010 tootblan race is heating up and its anyone’s race. stay tuned dodger fans for continuing tootblan coverage until the final game this season. stay tuned. until next time……….
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
The one caveat with this compilation would be what the situation was when Ausmus got thrown out at home. IIRC, there were runners at 2B and 3B and less than two out? Sometimes in that situation, the team tells both runners to advance right after contact on a ground ball. This puts pressure on the defense to instantly make the right decision if they field the ball, and also takes split-second baserunning decisionmaking out of the equation. If the infielder fields the ball cleanly and throws home right away, the runner going home is probably out but you’ll still have runners on first and third. If it’s an acrobatic stop or if the infielder just knocks the ball down, you’ll have one run in, another runner at 3B, and either a recorded out or not at 1B. And if the ball goes through, then you probably have two runs in no matter what, because it’s a contact play.
Conversely, with no contact play on, the only way you even get one run in on a ground ball is if it goes through, and you don’t get two runs in unless the grounder is hit behind the runner at 2B.
Comment by The Dude Abides— August 4, 2010 #
very good point. but if I remember correctly I think it was less than 2 outs. he had no chance of scoring. in my opinion a tootblan was well warranted.
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
Less than two outs is when you put that play on
Comment by The Dude Abides— August 4, 2010 #
sure you can put that play on if the runner at third is not your backup catcher. and I dont think the runner advanced to third on the play anyways. therefore it was a useless attempt to score with a very very low probability of ausmas doing anything other than getting thrown out. the tootblan stands. but you make a good point.
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
If the play wasn’t on and the runner at 2B didn’t advance, then it definitely qualifies as a TOOTBLAN.
Comment by The Dude Abides— August 4, 2010 #
BTW, DeWitt went 2 for 5 today with a homer and 4 RBIs. He also made an error, but it came in the 8th with a 7-run lead. He hit his homer when the Cubs were up 12-3. Still, I asked this question before…what if he develops some power under an actual competent hitting coach?
Comment by The Dude Abides— August 4, 2010 #
UGH. Hadn’t seen that. PUKE.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
Great. This is looking like the reverse Delino Deshields trade.
Probably working on Dewitt’s Hall shrine already, next to Pedro.
If he gets into a fight with Don Zimmer, it’s all over.
Comment by Vegas Blue— August 4, 2010 #
AJ Ellis recalled, Xavier Paul shipped out. No surprise there.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— August 4, 2010 #
typical. once again the dodgers refusing to go with their best 25 man roster. of coarse you know this will mean seeing more of the automatic out.
Comment by format— August 4, 2010 #
You are forgetting the Tootblan with Ethier at 3B in SF getting thrown out going home for the first out……….only way is if everyone got healthy and we fired Torre, but neither of those will happen. Pack it in.
Comment by DodgersKings323— August 4, 2010 #
Well, ya’ll don’t know Torre’s master plan. He’s had Anderson playing like crap all year just to lull the other teams into complacency. The plan now is to start Anderson the rest of the way and have him do the same thing Ramirez did in the last two months of 2008.
Actually, the unbalanced schedule might give the Dodgers a glimmer of (undeserved) hope. I recall that in 1971, the Giants had like a 10-game lead going into September. The unbalanced schedule (they had it, then they went away from it, and then they went back) caused a ton of games between the Dodgers and Giants. The Giants still won, but only by one game, as I recall. And they were so beaten down by that September schedule that they lost in short order in the playoffs. Which I enjoyed immensely.
This is a crappy team, not one that, based on the season thus far, even deserves to be in sniffing distance of the playoffs. But there is the unbalanced schedule. If they get hot, who knows… Unfortunately, four teams in the mix makes it tough. I think the best to hope for is that they play a spoiler role and keep the Giants out.
In Brooklyn, they used to say, “maybe next year.” The Dodgers actually have the nucleus of a good starting pitching staff. Ted Lilly might even prove worthwhile. Relievers? They come and go. Sherill will be gone. Dotel will replace Broxton before the year is out. Ramirez will be gone. Ethier and Furcal will hopefully be healed. Hopefully, Blake and Martin will be gone. Along with Kemp, who’s apparently learned too well from Manny. What Kemp apparently didn’t learn was that knack of being an overall shithead, but still putting up HOF numbers at the plate. Kemp shows all the indicators of being a cancer—even admits he doesn’t try—so one wonders why the Dodgers shouldn’t get rid of him.
And every time you bitch about the ownership situation, think about the Texas Rangers.
Comment by SC Dodger— August 4, 2010 #
[...] ER over 2 IP disaster against San Diego. That was the last we’d see of Weaver for weeks, and I’ll bet you’ve never heard a Dodger say this before: Jeff Weaver was placed on the DL with left knee tendinitis, and – stop me if you’ve heard this [...]
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