Hiroki Kuroda’s Trade Possibilities
July 25, 2011 at 9:47 am | Posted in Colby Rasmus, Hiroki Kuroda | 72 Comments
I’m back from a fun weekend away (no thanks to Delta and their six-hour delays, of course), and fortunately for us all, none of the trade possibilities we jokingly brought up last week came to fruition. Yet with each passing day, it seems more and more likely that Hiroki Kuroda will be on the move this week, possibly making his Wednesday start against the Rockies his final outing as a Dodger.
Of course, that’s all dependent on Kuroda waiving his no-trade clause, which is far from certain, though rumors that he would not go to the East Coast appear to have been overblown. He reportedly refused Ned Colletti’s request to provide a list of teams he’d be willing to go to, instead preferring to choose on a case-by-case basis, and ESPNLA’s Tony Jackson reports that even if Kuroda is willing to go somewhere, the Dodgers might not really want to trade him. I agreed with that stance about ten days ago, when I said that if trading Kuroda would only bring back some financial savings that could end up in the pockets of some bankruptcy lawyer or far-flung McCourt subsidiary, then it isn’t worth it – you might as well keep him to protect rotation depth (particularly Rubby De La Rosa) and improve your chances of re-signing Kuroda for 2012.
Still, the market for starting pitching is weak, particularly when you consider that the top names we’ve heard – Ubaldo Jimenez, James Shields, and Wandy Rodriguez – are very unlikely to be moved. It’s not that hard to consider Kuroda as the top available starting pitcher, and with more and more teams reportedly showing interest in the 36-year-old righty, the odds of getting something decent in return for him are improving. Let’s be careful to set expectations: I’m not talking about a top prospect superstud type. Kuroda’s a quality arm, but he’s not this year’s C.C. Sabathia or Cliff Lee. Two months of Kuroda probably won’t get you a franchise cornerstone, yet it should be enough to land you a quality prospect or two, and there’s value in that. (Particularly if the idea that Kuroda would go somewhere else and then come back to Los Angeles next year anyway has any merit to it, though if that means his acquiring team offered him arbitration that required the Dodgers to give up a draft pick to get him, then pass.)
So far, the teams that have popped up most often in rumors are the Tigers, Indians, Red Sox, Rangers and Yankees, with Ken Rosenthal specifically commenting on the Yanks earlier today. Let’s spitball some potential players of interest from each of those systems, shall we? Keeping in mind, of course, that I’m familiar with the top 5-10 prospects from most teams; often, these deals will also include lower-level guys that many of us haven’t heard of. As we all know, the Dodgers have absolutely zero depth at third base or behind the plate, so teams with players there have to be priority, though I don’t think it makes sense to turn down a solid pitching or outfield prospect if that’s the best deal.
Let’s also pretend for the moment that this won’t be a straight salary dump, in which case you can forget about just about anyone noted here.
Tigers. No, don’t even think about Jacob Turner, and also count out third baseman Nick Castellanos, who received a $3.45m bonus as a first round pick in 2010. Tigers blog Bless You Boys suggests that Detroit might be willing to part with 23-year-old power lefty Andy Oliver, who has struggled in brief MLB stints (23/21 K/BB, 25 ER in 31.2 IP) but entered the year as Baseball Prospectus‘ #3 prospect. Oliver looks to have solid strikeout stuff with some control issues; I can’t say he really excites me all that much, though for what Kuroda’s value really is, that’s probably a pretty good return.
Yankees. I don’t really have to tell you that Jesus Montero isn’t in play, right? That’s the case for pitchers Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances, too. If there’s one thing the Yankees have in spades (besides, you know, ungodly sums of cash), it’s catching prospects, as Gary Sanchez and Austin Romine are both coming up behind Montero. Sanchez is almost certainly too much for Kuroda, though I would consider getting Romine to be a huge win. I follow a ton of smart Yankee writers and fans on Twitter; many of them would not be happy with giving up Romine and instead suggested Huntington Beach native Kyle Higashioka behind the plate and 2B/3B Corban Joseph. Neither made BP’s Top 20 list, though that’s no surprise; like all of us, Yankee fans are overrating their own players just a bit. There’s also 23-year-old 3B/OF prospect Brandon Laird, who has 75 homers in parts of five MiLB seasons and just made his major league debut.
Red Sox. I’ve always liked catcher Ryan Lavarnway, hitting .372/.449/.752 in 36 AAA games, though his recent hot streak after being promoted probably means Kuroda alone won’t get him. There’s also the concern that Lavarnaway, a native of Burbank, doesn’t have the defensive chops to stay behind the plate, though it’s not like the Dodgers don’t have a big hole at 1B too. There’s also perhaps Yamaico Navarro, who has shown decent on-base skills in the minors while playing all over the infield. He’s done little in brief big-league stints, though he’s also quite blocked in Boston by Dustin Pedroia, Jed Lowrie, Kevin Youkilis, and Jose Iglesias (and for the moment, Marco Scutaro). Speaking of being blocked the Sox also have 22-year-old 3B Will Middlebrooks, Boston’s #11 prospect entering the season, who is having a big year in AA. I’d be thrilled to get either Lavarnway or Middlebrooks in a Kuroda deal.
Indians. I would be surprised if the Tribe took their surprising success this season seriously enough to trade for Kuroda, while their top two prospects – 2B Jason Kipnis and 3B Lonnie Chisenhall – would both be fantastic fits, they’ve each been promoted to Cleveland recently and aren’t being moved for Kuroda. (No, not even if you toss in Jamey Carroll, who Cleveland has reportedly been interested in re-acquiring.) The Indians aren’t in much better shape behind the plate than the Dodgers are – their top catcher, Alex Lavisky, has just a .251 OBP in A-ball this year – and I’m going to just stop talking about Cleveland right now, because it’s just not going to happen. (I don’t know, Cord Phelps, maybe.)
Rangers. My affinity for taking a lottery ticket on Chris Davis is well-known, though I would hope that isn’t the best the Dodgers can do. The Rangers have a ton of top prospects who we shouldn’t even dream on – Jurickson Profar, Martin Perez, etc – so we’ll have to keep this reasonable. I would live to get 3B Mike Olt, who has a solid glove and has shown good life with the bat, though it might be a bit much to ask Texas to trade a 2010 first rounder. Catcher Jorge Alfaro is probably too far away – he’s only 18 – as is Kellin Deglan, another 2010 first rounder.
Seems to me that the best outcome for the Dodgers is for Boston to step up to the plate. Their system has the best fit for the Dodger needs, they have a good history with accommodating Asian players, and whenever the Sox and Yankees bid for the same player, good things always happen for the seller. The main concern there is Theo Epstein convincing Ned Colletti that taking John Lackey in return is a great idea.
So there’s your most likely destinations… and then there’s Colby Rasmus, who I shouldn’t be wasting time thinking about, yet whom I can’t seem to get out of my mind. Reports that Rasmus and Tony LaRussa cannot coexist have been surfacing for nearly a year now, and it seems that the conflict is coming to a head. Twice a Baseball America top-10 prospect, Rasmus’ .366 wOBA was second only to Carlos Gonzalez among NL CF in 2010, when he was just 23. The numbers this year haven’t quite been to that level as he’s struggled with a stomach injury and clashed with LaRussa, but a player with that talent at that age would be a nice get for any team, with rumors heating up that he may be headed to the White Sox.
It may seem that outfield is the least of the Dodger worries, with Jerry Sands and Trayvon Robinson on their way up to join with Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier. Yet as we saw with Sands, there’s no guarantee that any prospect will immediately come up and contribute, and while Rasmus is under team control through 2014, Kemp and Ethier are both free agents after 2012. At the very least, he’d improve the offense while filling the left field black hole (no matter who ends up there, likely Ethier), but he’d also allow you to explore trading Ethier and/or protect you if one or both left as free agents. Sands could keep his first base glove handy, as well.
It’s almost certain not to happen, of course, but indulge me for a moment. The White Sox have reportedly made starting pitcher Edwin Jackson (a free agent after the season) or lefty reliever Matt Thornton available, along with prospects. Couldn’t the Dodgers beat that? Kuroda would be a given, of course. In the bullpen, perhaps the Cards would take a shot on Hong-Chih Kuo – when he’s right, no one is better – but hell, other than preferring to hang on to Kenley Jansen, give the Cards their pick. You want Kuo, Mike MacDougal, and Javy Guerra? Sure, why the hell not. Then for a prospect, perhaps one of the highly-touted pitchers who clearly have talent but have struggled to pull it together, like Chris Withrow or Ethan Martin. Kuroda, a reliever or two, and a prospect for Rasmus? You’re damned right I’d do that.
Oh, and finally, this: Rosenthal reports that the Pirates are nearing a crisis in the outfield now that Alex Presley is joining Jose Tabata on the injured list, and KABC’s Joe Block has a suggestion: Tony Gwynn. Gwynn has played well of late for the Dodgers, though his time as a starter may be growing short since Don Mattingly confirmed we’d be seeing Trayvon Robinson at some point this season (plus we expect Sands to return, too.) Gwynn’s trade value can’t be much, but turning a player who came in with zero value and has little future into anything of use would be outstanding.
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Mike, if we had a smart GM, I would hope that playing the Red Sox against the Yankees in a bidding war could up the return on Kuroda. But, we have Ned, so I am expecting to be disappointed by the return. Still, if I had my way, I would go after Davis from the Rangers and try to package in one (or more – MacDougal and Kuo wouldn’t make me sad) of our relief arms to see if the Rangers would throw in Robbie Erlin to make it happen. If it is the Sox, Middlebrooks and Lavarnway would be a nice return, but I wonder how much Epstein wants to take from the farm after giving up Kelly, Rizzo and Fuentes, last winter. As for the Yankees, I cannot argue with Laird and Romine. They have been in my sights since April.
Comment by grabarkewitz— July 25, 2011 #
Any chance we can get a Player to be Named out of MacDougal and his sexy ERA?
Comment by Brandon— July 25, 2011 #
“turning a player who came in with zero value and has little future into anything of use would be outstanding.”
I know it’s fun to hate on Ned, and he’s earned all the bashing he gets… but isn’t that exactly what he was able to do with The Riot? Hawksworth has been quite nice out of the ‘pen.
Comment by Dave Pomerantz— July 25, 2011 #
Sure. The problem is that the Dodgers had Ryan Theriot in the first place.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
Meh. The Dodgers never should’ve been buyers last year, but that deal was for Lilly. Theriot was a throw-in piece to fill in at 2nd since Ned was giving away DeWitt. He was never in the Dodgers’ plans past last Novemeber. (Why the Dodgers thought they could plan for November is beyond me…)
Comment by Dave Pomerantz— July 25, 2011 #
If Gwynn goes we are one step closer to “Most Dodgers in Left Field” glory. Go for the gold Ned!!!
(this is my favorite thing to comment about.)
Comment by BMcD— July 25, 2011 #
We’ll at least get to add Trayvon!
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
Mike mentioned that a Rasmus deal would likely push Ethier to left, without even mentioning the number of left fielders.
Comment by Dave Pomerantz— July 25, 2011 #
Man, Rasmus continues to tempt me as well. And Cardinals need starting pitching to stay in race this year. I am wondering about that all over again…. Naw, won’t happen! Must… change… subject…
I would be happy with a NYY trade for Sancez or Romine, they are loaded at catcher and even if any of that seems to overpay for a rental SP they may want to go “all in” and deal from an area of depth. Red Sox do seem best fit overall though for a match. Plenty of good options as return for LA. Please don’t get fleeced Ned.
And we could still see Kuroda back in LA next year!
Comment by Craig Phillips— July 25, 2011 #
“Kuroda, a reliever or two, and a prospect for Rasmus? You’re damned right I’d do that.”
Without crunching the numbers, doesn’t that seem a bit much? Say Kuroda, Kou, Guerra, and Martin for Rasmus?
Comment by Brandon— July 25, 2011 #
I guess that depends on whether or not you think Kuo is ever going to be right again.
Comment by Dave Pomerantz— July 25, 2011 #
I’d do it with no looking back.
Comment by Bob Springer— July 25, 2011 #
Me too. An older non-ace free agent, a talented but injury prone reliever, a decentish young arm and a first round semi-bust? If anything, it’s not enough.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
Do you think the Cards would consider Kuroda and Ethier for Rasmus and a prospect? That way we get a younger player and they get starting pitching for this year and Ethier still under control next year if Berkman leaves. It causes a problem for them in CF now but what a nice middle of the order: Prince Albert, Holliday, Berkman and Ethier. I guess those few games with Albert at third base could pay off.
Comment by west coast ram— July 25, 2011 #
Ok, replace Guerra with MacDougal and I’ll do it. I just have a man-crush on Guerra right now.
Comment by Brandon— July 25, 2011 #
Don’t fall too much in love with Guerra. He’s not our future closer and he has had some outings where he has gotten lucky with the bee bees that were hit off of him.
Comment by Bob Springer— July 25, 2011 #
This, this, this.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
So? I can still man-crush him. Stop trying to control my life!!!
Comment by Brandon— July 25, 2011 #
If trade talks are to involve the Yankees, I’m sure Cashman will be able to bamboozle Colletti into taking A.J. Burnett for Kuroda.
Comment by Raul Madrid Jr.— July 25, 2011 #
I’d do 2 months of Kuroda and a year and two months of Ethier for 4 years and 2 months of Rasmus in a second.
Comment by Warren— July 25, 2011 #
It’d be 3+ years of Rasmus, not 4, and that is far too much for him.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
I misread that from BR. I assumed FA in 2015 meant after 2015. I’d still do it. For three reasons. First, Ethier is going to cost $10-11 million next year. Not worth it to me with limited resources. Two, I don’t believe Ethier & Kemp both stay. If one goes it should be Ethier and getting someone to replace him for the next 4 years sounds good to me. Three, a guy you can stick in CF/RF right now and count on beats a good but not great prospect that may flame out. I’d play him in center, move Kemp to right, try Sands/Robinson in left, and put whatever limited resources are available into finding someone to replace Kuroda and fill the holes at first, third, and catcher.
Comment by Warren— July 25, 2011 #
I agree and think that having Rasmus under control is the key. The Dodgers are not going to be good next year but could very well be back in contention by 2013. If they get Kemp signed and have Rasmus under control they would be much better off than trying to sign both Kemp and Ethier. The other option would be to get a third team involved and deal Kuroda to the Cards who would get a prospect from the third team and Ethier to the third team with a prospect coming back and Rasmus coming to the Dodgers.
The final option would be instead of Kuroda on a salary dump make any team that wanted him to also take Uribe with no prospects coming back.
Comment by west coast ram— July 25, 2011 #
Dodger fan from St. Louis here…I would be okay with Rasmus but any talk of him playing RF is ridiculous. He really struggles to throw, (mostly seems like a lack of confidence) but I it seems that teams always try and take an extra base on him
Comment by Tim— July 25, 2011 #
Really enjoyed this post Mike…. Would love Middlebrooks and Lavarnway for say Kuroda and Furcal…
Comment by Tripp— July 25, 2011 #
Thanks, Tripp. I don’t see the Sox having a need for Furcal, though. If you want both of those guys, you’re probably getting into Ethier territory.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
IMO, Javy Guerra should be combined with Kuroda in order to get a better position prospect than what we would get for Kuroda alone. We have a ton of relief depth at AA, and if we could get Lavarnway and Middlebrooks for Kuroda, Guerra, MacDougal, and Ethan Martin, that would be a great deal.
Comment by The Dude Abides— July 25, 2011 #
I would absolutely do that. Not sure the Sox would, but I’d love it.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
If we could do the Rasmus thing, how about Ethier and somebody else for those two players?
Comment by Bob Springer— July 25, 2011 #
Kuroda / Kuo / Martin for Rasmus
then
Ethier / (mid-level prospect or bench piece like Blake) for Middlebrooks and Lavarnway
I would feel a lot better about this team.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
O man…with our young (Kershaw and Billingsley) and up and coming pitching,(Lee, De la Rosa, Webster, Gould) along with Sands, Kemp, Gordon, Robinson….this would be a dream. Seems pretty realistic too. Make this happen Mike. Wow, what a young talented team this would be.
Comment by Tripp— July 25, 2011 #
Mike, isn’t it likely that the Dodgers finish in the bottom 15 again this season, and thus don’t have to give up a draft pick if they sign a good free agent? Or is there some rule stating you can’t be exempt two seasons in a row?
Comment by The Dude Abides— July 25, 2011 #
Hrm. Good point.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
I do have my moments of clarity. But I still hate the fuckin’ Eagles, man.
Comment by The Dude Abides— July 25, 2011 #
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Mike,
A NYY prospect that has intrigued me for a while is 2B David Adams. He had a bad ankle injury last year and is just now getting back on the field. He is a doubles machine with a knack for driving in runs and is a good OBP guy.
2B David Adams – 6’2″ 190 – R/R – 05/15/87 (24) – Drafted: 2008 (3rd Round)
08 067 257 45 066 19 2 4 31 32 57 08 2 .257 .350 .393 0.743 – SS
09 132 490 69 140 40 8 7 75 61 88 11 8 .286 .373 .443 0.816 – A/A+
10 039 152 31 047 15 3 3 32 18 31 05 2 .309 .393 .507 0.900 – AA
11 019 064 13 027 10 0 1 11 05 11 02 1 .422 .458 .625 1.083 – R/A+
Comment by BLUEFAN— July 25, 2011 #
Good call on Adams; I like him too. I would certainly take a chance on him, though I know that ankle injury was brutally severe, so I wouldn’t want him to be the centerpiece, probably.
Comment by Mike Scioscia's tragic illness— July 25, 2011 #
I think Rasmus would be a great fit with Mattingly over here
Comment by Josher— July 25, 2011 #
I wouldn’t want to give up on Winthrow yet. He’s having a bounce-back year and has supposedly worked out his control issues.
Comment by JohnM— July 25, 2011 #
Where is all this Ethan Martin trade value coming from? Just because he got promoted to Double-A doesn’t mean his value has increased. It’s decreased dramatically.
If you’re talking Rasmus, it’d cost at least Kuroda, Carroll or Furcal, a BP arm (Jansen, Guerra… don’t think Kuo has any value) and a pitching prospect not named Zach Lee (Webster, Gould, Eovaldi). I like Rasmus, but would had the idea of losing Webster, Gould or Eovaldi.
Comment by Dustin Nosler— July 25, 2011 #
Add Withrow to the pitching prospect list, too. I’d probably be most comfortable including him than the other three.
Comment by Dustin Nosler— July 25, 2011 #
Seeing as WInthrow has the highest ceiling of any in the group, I’d be most inclined to keep him. If we included carroll, kuroda, furcal, and guerra I don’t think we’d have to give up one of our top tier pitchers. But if we did (I’d love to see rasmus in a dodger uniform) I would have to say Webster. He is, at absolute best, a middle of the rotation starter.
Comment by JohnM— July 25, 2011 #
Withrow does have the highest ceiling, but many believe he’s destined for the bullpen because he has below-average command. He’s had a resurgent 2011 (kinda hard not to after last season’s disaster). His BB/9 is actually higher this year than last (5.1 compared to 4.8) and his K/BB is only slightly better (1.74 to 1.80). I read somewhere last week if he could even have 45-grade command, he could be a No. 1 or 2. That’s a big “if,” though.
And my opinion is a tad biased, as Webster is my favorite Dodger prospect. If he’s a No. 3, that’d be just fine.
Comment by Dustin Nosler— July 25, 2011 #
The problem with webster is, he just doesn’t have great stuff. He’s done well in his minor league career but if someone has good command of 3 pitches they’re going to do well at any minor league level because so few pitchers in the minors have that. Good command of 3 pitches isn’t enough to succeed in the majors though. I would say eovaldi is the best at this point, although he needs a bit more time to refine his curveball and change up. He has good command and very good stuff.
Comment by JohnM— July 25, 2011 #
Article on ESPN saying that Kuroda will consider the Yankers and the Bosox.
http://tinyurl.com/3qbv486
Comment by The Dude Abides— July 25, 2011 #
According to ESPN, anyone would love a trade to the Yankers or Bosox.
Comment by LA Dodger Blues— July 25, 2011 #
Why all the love for Rasmus? (I have him on my fantasy team and he runs hot and cold.) His OPS is .740 this year and only .775 for his career. He IS a large defensive upgrade over Ethier but not without a 70 point drop in OPS. I realize that Ethier is going to be expensive, but no way I’d include Guerra and/or Kuo plus a prospect and Kuroda for Rasmus.
Small sample size on Guerra, but 3:1 K:BB so far and he has shown a level of confidence not seen by a Dodger closer since Gagne. His minor league numbers have improved over the past few years and he was missing a lot of Nats bats the last two games.
Everyone is always on Ethier’s ass because he makes a few unwise comments, but unlike Rasmus, he can get along with his manager and also seems to be liked by most of his teammates.
Comment by SamAdams— July 25, 2011 #
Rasmus is younger and OPSed .860 last season. He has been injured and at odds with Tony La Russa this season.
Comment by JohnM— July 25, 2011 #
OH and he can hit lefties!
Comment by JohnM— July 25, 2011 #
….and he would be under team control through 2014. and he can hit lefties. and he is younger. and he can hit lefties. did i mention that he has the ability to hit lefties? like vin has said 100 time already this year, “i don’t know why any lefty would throw ‘dre a fastball.”
Comment by west coast ram— July 25, 2011 #
Umm… Didn’t that one Broxton guy have, like, a 37:1 k:bv ratio a coupke years in a row? He was cold as ice for 2 1/2 years there too…
Comment by @BrocNessMonster— July 25, 2011 #
Cold as ice for 2 and a half years? How dramatically recent history affects our memory. Broxton has only been bad since the second half of 2010, which is also when his K/BB ratio turned to crap.
Comment by Bip— July 26, 2011 #
“Small sample size on Guerra, but 3:1 K:BB so far and he has shown a level of confidence not seen by a Dodger closer since Gagne.”
Takashi Saito says hi.
Comment by Dustin Nosler— July 26, 2011 #
I think many people are missing the point on Kuroda. He is a valuable pitcher and may make the difference for a contender, but his contract is so back loaded. Anyone taking him on has to pay the remainder of his signing bonus that was deferred.
The numbers that are out there is that he is still owed $6.6 million after July 31. That is an awful lot for a 2-3 month rental. That would make him probably the most expensive pitcher on the market.
Unless the Dodgers picked up a good portion of his salary, this would only be a salary dump and a usable prospect in return is not likely
Comment by Kirk Davenport— July 25, 2011 #
Add on a cash payment to Kuroda to waive the no-trade clause and possible additional incentives for moving or going to certain teams, and the $6.6 million may be more like $8-10 million for 2-3 months – not very palatable for teams. McCourt would be licking his chops though to save the $6.6 million
Comment by Kirk Davenport— July 25, 2011 #
It’s as if it’s pulled right off the web!
“Guessing a financial incentive in the $1-2MM range might compel Kuroda to pitch in the midwest or on the East Coast for a few months. Since Kuroda’s signing bonus is paid out in 2012-13, $6.6MM of his $12MM contract will be owed to him after the trade deadline. Tack on additional money for the no-trade clause, and renting Kuroda becomes an expensive proposition.”
Comment by Gibby's Limp— July 25, 2011 #
TBLA says the extra $4m to Kuroda is a signing bonus for which the Dodgers are liable, even if Kuroda plays for another team next season.
Comment by The Dude Abides— July 25, 2011 #
MLB Trade Rumors reports the new team is on the hook for the remaining payments to Kuroda. Manny and Andruw Jones are still being paid by the Dodgers, but they were waived and released, not traded.
It would be nice to have an authoritative answer to this – perhaps MSTI has a source for the facts
Comment by Kirk Davenport— July 26, 2011 #
We can all dream our little dreams, but in the end, it is Ned we’re talking about making the deals.
Comment by EnchantedTheBeav— July 25, 2011 #
How about we make it simple and send Eitheir for Rasmus
Comment by Tyler— July 25, 2011 #
Anyone know why Trayvon was pulled from the lineup tonight?
Comment by @BrocNessMonster— July 25, 2011 #
Ejected after his teammate got thrown at.
Comment by The Dude Abides— July 25, 2011 #
It was (another) ugly game at Isotopes Park: http://www.examiner.com/baseball-in-albuquerque/isotopes-drop-series-finale-to-zephyrs
Comment by Chris Jackson— July 25, 2011 #
Can anyone speculate what Kuroda & Ethier to the Red Sox would net?
Comment by Rob C— July 25, 2011 #
Lavarnway, Navarro, and Josh reddick maybe?
Comment by johnmano12— July 25, 2011 #
i was thinking will middlebrooks and josh reddick
Comment by GP— July 26, 2011 #
Rasmus yes, but not for our entire bullpen, esp. not for Guerra. Plus Rasmus may be a mental,case.
Comment by paul c— July 25, 2011 #
The red sox need another outfielder. Why not package Kuroda, Gwynn, MacDougal, and Carroll to Boston for Lavarnway and Middlebrooks?
Carroll provides an immediate upgrade over Lowrie, Scutaro, and Navarro.
Comment by Josh— July 26, 2011 #
I like it. They’ve got a ton of offense, so a no hit, great glove player like Gwynn could work for them.
Comment by Dave Pomerantz— July 26, 2011 #
Keep in mind that Gwynn’s on pace for 20 steals and his OBP since June 1 has been roughly .390
Comment by Josh— July 26, 2011 #
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