MSTI’s 2011 in Review: Relievers, Part 3
November 12, 2011 at 11:36 pm | Posted in Josh Lindblom, Mike MacDougal, Ramon Troncoso | 17 Comments
Mike MacDougal (B+)
2.05 ERA, 3.96 FIP, 6.5 K/9, 4.6 BB/9
Sentences I never thought I’d write: “Along with Matt Guerrier, Mike MacDougal was one of only two Dodger relievers to spend the entire 2011 season on the active roster.” Think about that for a second.
Like with Aaron Miles, when MacDougal was given a non-roster invite in January it hardly warranted much attention, since he hadn’t been a useful pitcher for years and he didn’t figure to make much of an impact with the big club. Yet thanks to a solid spring and a bullpen that was far more unsettled at the end of camp than the start of it, MacDougal broke camp with the club and stuck around all season. When it became clear that he might be coming north in March because people were putting far too much importance on five scoreless spring innings (to that point), I looked at what was realistic to expect from him:
Remember, this is a guy who over the last four seasons has pitched in 144 major league games, and has a K/BB rate of 99/95, while allowing more than a hit per inning, and his minor league numbers haven’t been much better. I’m not immune to the idea that guys can get healthy or fix a mechanical issue that brings improved results, but rarely does that happen at 34, and in this case, the nice ERA isn’t really justified.
“The nice ERA isn’t really justified” was a recurring theme throughout the season, as “MacDougal allows inherited runners to score without affecting his own ERA” became something of a running joke, as you can see by the large gap between his ERA and his FIP. Just as an example, here’s part of a recap of a randomly selected game from June, though know that this could (and did) apply to a whole lot of MacDougal appearances:
I’d like to take this opportunity to once again point out how silly ERA can be. Kershaw left the bases loaded, and while starting that mess is definitely on him, once he left the game he had absolutely no control over whether those runners score. If Elbert wiggles out of that mess, Kershaw allows three total earned runs, which doesn’t look so bad. Elbert (and MacDougal) couldn’t, and so Kershaw’s line looks like a disaster. MacDougal, by the way, faced three batters without retiring a single one. He wasn’t charged with any earned runs. Remember that when someone looks at MacDougal’s 2.14 ERA and tries to tell you he’s any good. Hooray, ERA!
Now again, like Miles, MacDougal gets a lot of credit for being a zero-risk scrap-heap pickup who made some contributions this year, even briefly being elevated to the role of main setup man in front of Javy Guerra when injuries took down Kenley Jansen and Blake Hawksworth. When a team brings in the usual collection of has-beens and never-weres over the winter, this is exactly the sort of “good enough, but not great” performance you’re hoping for. So good on MacDougal for that, because a 3.96 FIP for a minimum salary is eminently usable.
That doesn’t change the fact that he was clearly overrated by many because of that shiny, clearly faulty ERA, of course. He barely struck out more than he walked over the season, and he was constantly hurting other pitchers by letting their inherited runners to score. Never was this demonstrated more clearly than in one of Don Mattingly’s worst managerial decisions, bringing MacDougal into a 1-1 game in Milwaukee on August 16:
With the game tied at one in the bottom of the ninth, Hong-Chih Kuo started the frame off by walking Prince Fielder on six pitches. Kuo didn’t look good doing it, and with righties Casey McGehee and Yuniesky Betancourt following, Don Mattingly strode to the mound and called to the bullpen for his righty, which was absolutely the correct move.
Unfortunately, coming in wasn’t Javy Guerra, who hadn’t pitched since Friday and has allowed just one earned run in the last two months. It was Mike MacDougal, who threw 2/3 of an inning last night and is, you know, Mike MacDougal. I’ve defended Mattingly a lot this season, but much of this loss lies on him, as he fell victim to the same mistake that managers have been making for decades, which is saving their closer for a lead in a tie game on the road.
Or as I put it on Twitter at the time,
Whenever you can bring Mike MacDougal in to a tied game with a man on in the bottom of the 9th, you have to do it.
I bet I don’t have to tell you how that ended, right? MacDougal is a free agent, but I think we all believe the Dodgers will show interest in retaining him. Let’s hope that’s for less than $1m, or even better, another non-guaranteed deal.
Ramon Troncoso (D-)
6.75 ERA, 5.19 FIP, 5.6 K/9, 1.6 BB/9
Geez, does anyone still remember 2009, when Troncoso was one of the more reliable non-elite relievers in the NL? That seems so long ago now. It’s easy to look back at 2010, when he pitched in 16 of the first 24 games, and conclude that Joe Torre ruined him like he did so many others, but that was a theory we investigated and largely discarded last season.
2011, Troncoso’s fourth season with the Dodgers, saw him have three different tours of duty with the big club, though his season numbers were ruined when he allowed 12 hits to just 17 batters in his first two appearances in April. He wasn’t seen again for a month, in which he had eight relatively good outings in May and June sandwiched around two disasters, and then spent all of July and August in the minors before returning in September to contribute five good outings and one nightmare.
As you can tell, Troncoso in 2011 was either hit or big, big miss. He’s under team control in 2012, but is out of options, meaning that he must break camp with the team (or be on the DL) or otherwise exposed to waivers before being sent down. It’s not altogether unlikely that we’ve seen the last of him as a Dodger.
Josh Lindblom (A-)
2.73 ERA, 2.35 FIP, 8.5 K/9, 3.0 BB/9
Was it really over two years ago that Lindblom was a fast riser, nearly breaking camp with the club in 2009 after just nine MiLB games in 2008? Apparently it was. Lindblom went back to ABQ and was successful in a relief role, but then was sent back to AA Chattanooga in an attempt to convert him to starting. The results were mixed for the remainder of 2009, and then 2010 was an absolute disaster, putting up a 6.54 ERA and allowing 13.5 hits per nine, and granted that’s in ABQ, but still not good. The Dodgers finally gave up the ghost on “Josh Lindblom, Starter”, and allowed him to return to the bullpen in June, where he was solid to end 2010 back in AA and excellent in 34 games for the Lookouts to start this season – earning himself a recall on May 29 when Kenley Jansen made a trip to the disabled list with shoulder inflammation.
Overall, the results were good. Lindblom got into 27 games across multiple stints with the team (generally going up and down as Jansen was available and not), and allowed more than one earned run just one time, which is solid. I remember saying to myself, about halfway through his tenure, that I liked him but that he didn’t miss enough bats, because over his first 13 games, he’d struck out just 9 in 16 innings. Over his final 14 outings, he whiffed 19 in 13.2, puncuated by striking out five of the six Diamondbacks he faced after replacing Clayton Kershaw following the ace’s ejection on September 14.
Looking ahead to 2012, Lindblom probably doesn’t have a job completely sown up out of camp, but with his 2011 performance and minimum cost salary, there’s no reason to think we won’t be seeing quite a bit of him.
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Next! Kenley Jansen is unhittable! Hong-Chih Kuo falls apart! And oh good lord, I have to write something about Lance Cormier? It’s the final installment of relievers – part 4!
Let’s Enjoy The Two Years We Had With Jamey Carroll
November 11, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Posted in Jamey Carroll | 34 Comments
After a day full of hilarious “Jamey Carroll is close to signing with someone but no one knows who, so it could be the Blue Jays, Braves, Blackhawks, Knicks, or Real Madrid” rumors, we’ve finally learned the truth: he’s headed to the Twins on a two-year deal worth $7m, likely to be their everyday shortstop. After the far inferior Willie Bloomquist picked up $3.85m from Arizona (and turned down a reported $4.6m from the Giants), there was no question that Carroll was going to get in the $7-8m range, so good on him for picking up a nice payday.
Let’s also take this time to be very, very happy that the Dodgers had Carroll for the last two years, and not the next two. For $3.85m – and I’ll admit I wasn’t too certain about guaranteeing that second year at the time – Carroll provided the Dodgers with 924 plate appearances of a .368 OBP, good for a 99 OPS+. Considering his positional flexibility and life-saving (and unexpected) ability to step in at shortstop when Rafael Furcal kept breaking down, he earned his salary and then some in value gained by the Dodgers. For all the negativity we send towards Ned Colletti, this ended up being a superb signing on his part, so let’s not hold back the rare credit he deserves.
As for the Twins? Well, look, I get that this is where the market is going, but while Carroll as a utility guy and backup shortstop option as needed is fantastic, Carroll as your top choice for shortstop – while doubling his salary entering his age-38 season – is somewhat terrifying. In the last fifty years, exactly five shortstops have played enough to qualify for a batting title at 38 or older. Two of those – Luis Aparicio & Ozzie Smith – are Hall of Famers, and the other three – Barry Larkin, Maury Wills, and Omar Vizquel – have varying cases for consideration. Somehow, I’m not betting on Carroll to break that trend, though best of luck to him in trying. For once, I’m glad that it seems the Dodgers got in and got out at the right time.
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Speaking of the crazy offseason that we’ve been discussing here for a few days, the Phillies had agreed to a 4/$44m contract with Ryan Madson, which most people found laughable. The deal fell through for reasons we still don’t understand. So what do the Phillies do? They turn around and sign Jonathan Papelbon for 4/$50m, plus an easily attained vesting option that could push the total value over $60m – plus it’ll likely cost them a draft pick that Madson wouldn’t have. It’s not like Ruben Amaro hasn’t made crazy signings before, but maybe we shouldn’t be too upset that Colletti might not have the financial power right now that we might have otherwise liked.
MSTI’s 2011 in Review: Relievers, Part 2
November 10, 2011 at 8:21 am | Posted in Blake Hawksworth, Jonathan Broxton, Matt Guerrier | 9 Comments
Matt Guerrier (C)
4.07 ERA, 3.43 FIP, 6.8 K/9, 3.4 BB/9
Let’s get this out of the way right up front: despite all of the negative things we say about Matt Guerrier, he wasn’t bad. He pitched in 70 games, just like he always does. His xFIP was nearly exactly the same as it was in the previous few years, and his FIP was actually lower. While he walked more than he did as a Twin, he also struck out more, so on the whole you got a decent Guerrier year, and that’s not a terrible guy to have in the bullpen.
But that contract… good lord, that contract. As Eric Stephen wrote at TrueBlueLA, “among the 15 Dodgers to pitch in relief this season Guerrier ranked eighth in ERA (4.07), eighth in FIP (3.43), and 12th in xFIP (4.30).” For that, Guerrier was handsomely rewarded with a backloaded three-year, $12m contract, and, well, we went over all of this a few weeks ago:
As you can see, Guerrier ranks all over the place. He missed a surprising amount of bats for someone without that kind of reputation, which is nice, as was his decent placement in the advanced run metrics. Of course, being one of the worst at LOB% and the absolute worst at “meltdowns” (if you didn’t read the definition, it’s when a reliever makes his team at least 6% more likely to lose) isn’t exactly what you hoped for when spending the money.
And that’s really the entire point, isn’t it? Guerrier had his uses, and he’s deserving of a place in the Dodger bullpen – no one’s arguing that he needs to be dumped or shipped off immediately, that he was some sort of Juan Uribe in the relief corps. But as I continue to struggle with my 2012 plan (which I’m probably on iteration #76 of right now), the backloaded ~$4.7m for Guerrier sticks out, particularly when he’s likely no better than the 4th best reliever in the bullpen.
Considering how many relievers were as successful or moreso than Guerrier for less years, dollars, or both, it’s safe to say that this is one we should all wish we had back, perhaps even more so than we initally felt when he first signed it.
Still, it’s not Guerrier’s fault that he accepted the large contract that was offered to him, and he’s still got two more years left on it. If we can look past the dollar amount, he’s still useful, and for a bullpen that looks to be extremely young next year, it’s not the worst thing in the world to have a reliable, if not spectacular, veteran in the mix.
Blake Hawksworth (C+)
4.08 ERA, 3.84 FIP, 7.3 K/9, 2.9 BB/9
I will say this until it can’t be said any longer: Blake Hawksworth derives value from simply not being Ryan Theriot, whom he was traded straight-up for back in November. Or do you not remember the sheer joy of “Ryan Theriot Traded for Living, Breathing, Human Being“?
Beyond that, Hawksworth seemed like an intriguing arm and potential spot starter, and since he was out of options it was all but assured he’d make the club. For the first month or so, he was reasonably useful, at least from a back-of-the-bullpen arm acquired for literally nothing: through May 10, he’d allowed a .651 OPS and six earned runs in 17 2/3 innings. On a team that was employing both Lance Cormier and Mike MacDougal at the time, that was valuable enough – until he injured his hip and missed nearly a month.
Returning in June, he was once again solid, allowing a .542 OPS and a 19/5 K/BB in 19 1/3 innings. Nothing stellar, of course, but certainly useful; this earned him a B in the midseason reviews, where I referred to him as “perfectly acceptable.” But from there, it was all downhill for Hawksworth, as he allowed 16 runs (12 earned) in his final 16 2/3 innings of the season, making many wonder if he was injured again – and culminating in his failure to cover first base (or, you know, get outs) in the September 28 soulcrusher in Arizona.
Still, he did top previous career highs in K/9 rate and BB/9 rate, and despite being out of options he’s still a pre-arbitration player. At essentially zero cost to the Dodgers, he provides value, so it’s more than likely that he’s got a job in the 2012 bullpen.
Jonathan Broxton (F…’d by Torre)
5.68 ERA, 5.63 FIP, 7.11 K/9, 6.39 BB/9
I think I said all I needed to about Broxton back in September, when it was announced that he wouldn’t be making a return in 2011 and I bid a likely adieu to his Dodger career:
If this is the end for Broxton, he’s going to walk away as one of the most successful and dominating relievers in Dodger history. Among Dodgers with as many career innings as he has, his 11.55 K/9 mark is by far the best, more than a full strikeout ahead of Eric Gagne‘s chemically-aided 10.38. His K/BB of 3.09 is fifth best, ahead of Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, and Don Sutton, and he’s also on the top ten as far as the fewest hits per nine allowed.
From his debut on July 29, 2005 through June 26, 2010, Broxton was consistently excellent. In 349.2 innings over 341 games, he struck out a whopping 468 batters, allowing opponents to hit just .209/.285/.300 against him. For those afraid he’d wilt in the ninth inning, he actually got better once he was promoted to the closer’s job after Takashi Saito‘s injury in July of 2008; from then until June 26, 2010, he struck out 204 in 138 innings and held the opposition to a microscopic line of .185/.258/.242. For the better part of two years, Broxton was either the absolute best closer in baseball or something very close to it.
That was more about his Dodger career as a whole, so if we’re sticking to a 2011 recap… well what can you say. He was awful, clearly because he was pitching with a tattered elbow, which he finally underwent surgery on it in September. If anything, he helped prove once again that saves are a mockery by converting seven of eight, including five of the first eight games of the season, despite not being very good. Really, any sort of analysis of his performance this year is somewhat pointless. He was never healthy, and he was gone after the first month. Sad end for one of the better Dodger pitchers in recent years.
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Next! Josh Lindblom finally makes his debut! Mike MacDougal, shiny happy veteran reliever! And Ramon Troncoso, punching bag! It’s relievers, part 3!
Dodgers Can’t Hand Out Big Contracts, Unless They Can
November 9, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Posted in Matt Kemp | 19 CommentsThe Los Angeles Dodgers will not be able to bid on free agents such as Prince Fielder and Albert Pujols until the team is sold, a source close to Dodgers owner Frank McCourt told ESPN.com on Wednesday.
The team is expected to sell for in the neighborhood of $1.2 billion, the source said, adding the process will likely take 4-6 months, spilling into 2012 and further reducing the Dodgers’ chances of acquiring players through free agency.
The agent for Los Angeles Dodgers center fielder and National League Most Valuable Player candidate Matt Kemp said Wednesday that talks on a long-term contract extension for his client are moving in a positive direction and that he is optimistic an agreement will be reached.
Dave Stewart, Kemp’s San Diego-based agent and himself a former Dodgers pitcher, said his discussions with Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti have been positive and productive.
“I don’t think that it’s going to be difficult, I really don’t,” Stewart said. “I think we should be able to come to something. I have talked with Ned on a few occasions. We have covered some ground, and hopefully, we will be able to put this thing to bed soon.”
Colletti also characterized the negotiations as moving forward.
“We have had some constructive conversations,” Colletti said. “Those conversations have been a little more substantive of late.
Obviously, the difference here is that Kemp is a current player while Pujols, Fielder and others would be new additions, but that’s really just semantics: no one’s arguing that Kemp isn’t in line for a massive contract of his own.
This Winter Is About to Get Out of Hand
November 9, 2011 at 9:42 am | Posted in Willie Bloomquist | 26 CommentsFor all of our complaining that the Dodgers aren’t in position to sign Prince Fielder when by all accounts it’s a perfect fit, maybe it’s better that they simply might not be able to jump into the free agent frenzy this year because of ownership uncertainty.
As I absolutely don’t need to remind you, the Juan Rivera signing wasn’t received well in these pages, not because he’s unworthy of a job, but because guaranteeing him $4.5m seemed far out of line with what similar players had received in the past. Earlier this week, I linked to a Baseball Prospectus article which laid out the details:
Last week, R.J. Anderson observed that Chien-Ming Wang’s $4 million deal (plus incentives) was way out of line with the make-good contracts awarded to injury-prone starters during the 2010-2011 offseason. Rivera’s contract appears to be inflated by a similar amount compared to last winter’s comparable corner outfielders, such as Reed Johnson ($900,000), Marcus Thames ($1 million, and from LA, no less), Andruw Jones ($1.5 million), Matt Diaz ($2.125 million), and Jeff Francoeur ($2.5 million).
As the piece noted, Wang had signed for a similar deal which also seemed to be on the high side for comparable injury-prone started pitchers:
Adding to the oddness is how a $4 million payout compares to the contracts given to injury-prone starters just last winter. Wang will make double or more than nine out of the 10 pitchers listed, with only Webb—who compares favorably to Wang in skill set—coming close to his payout. Even when considering inflation, Wang is making more money than pitchers with similar issues.
The madness continues. Yesterday, the Phillies came to terms on a 4/$44m extension for Ryan Madson, with an option for a fifth year at $13m (though it’s not final yet pending the approval of Phillies ownership). Madson has long been a solid and underrated pitcher who is coming off of a very good year, but the money is shocking, particularly coming just a year after the Phillies didn’t consider Madson to be a closer candidate. As you can imagine, the response has been one of wonderment, since Madson is very good but probably not one of the three or four best relievers in baseball, and we know all too well that long-term contracts for relievers not named Mariano Rivera just about never work out, ever.
It gets better. Willie Bloomquist – supposedly at the heart of a tug-of-war between the Giants and Diamondbacks – returned to Arizona for two years and $3.8m after he declined his half of a mutual option. Willie F’ing Bloomquist. The same guy who put up an OPS+ over 79 exactly twice in the last nine years. The same guy who has never had an OPS above .679 in any season with meaningful playing time. The same guy who’s put up 1.3 fWAR… over the entirety of his career. (And if you go by the FanGraphs version, that all came in his first two seasons, so he’s been at 0.0 over the last seven years.) In a fair and just world, Willie Bloomquist would have trouble finding at-bats for a Triple-A squad. Yet that’s the guy who just came down with a multi-year deal and, as Hardball Talk notes, received a nice raise to do so:
And ultimately Bloomquist was obviously smart to decline the $1.1 million option, because he got a 72 percent salary bump and an extra year of guaranteed money at age 34. Must of been the .657 OPS.
If you’re Jamey Carroll‘s agent, how can you not be seeing what Bloomquist got and think that Carroll is worth two or three times that much? If you’re Jonathan Papelbon, doesn’t Madson’s deal make you think you’re worth at least $50m?
Now you can argue that this is just due to the teams involved. On Rivera, “Colletti gonna Colletti”, sure. On Madson, well, it’s not like Ruben Amaro didn’t already give Ryan Howard a ludicrous $125m extension that looked bad at the time and seems even worse now. And in Arizona, Kevin Towers does have an odd predilection for terrible veteran backup infielders, since he did hire Melvin Mora, Sean Burroughs, and Geoff Blum (on another multi-year deal) last season, and already gave John McDonald a two-year commitment last week.
Maybe that’s it. Maybe when the sane teams get around to signing people, it’ll be for figures that make sense. Or maybe this is going to be an offseason like we haven’t seen in years, where the numbers tossed around are so insane that even the lower-tier guys are going to get lifted up. Personally, I’d rather take that money and put it into scouting and international development. But I suppose we’ll have to come back to that discussion after Aaron Miles and Mike MacDougal return on matching two-year, $14m commitments, won’t we?
Notes From Japan: Kuroda & Nakajima
November 8, 2011 at 8:46 am | Posted in Hiroki Kuroda, Hiroyuki Nakajima | 18 Comments
This shouldn’t come as much of a surprise, but Patrick Newman of NBP Tracker (via MLBtraderumors) shares the news that Hiroki Kuroda has recieved an offer from the Hiroshima Carp to return to Japan and play for them in 2012. This isn’t really breaking news, because it’s long been assumed that Kuroda would only play for the Dodgers or the Carp, and whenever he does leave Los Angeles it’s likely that he’ll want to play at least one farewell season for his old club.
As translated by Newman, Kuroda had this to say about the offer:
“I’m happy that they would evaluate my contributions like that. Naturally, I’m happy. A feeling that they really want to win came across. (Hiroshima’s competitiveness this season) has come to a frustrating place, to a place where they are one step away… I’m very happy I got an offer from the Carp.”
Still, I wouldn’t read too much into this. If we know anything about Kuroda, it’s that he’s forever going to be polite in the media, and there was no way he would say anything other than positive things about his former, and possibly future, team. I still have a 70/30 gut feeling that he’ll return for another year with the Dodgers, particularly with what we learned when he refused to waive his no-trade clause in July. Nor should it be a surprise that the Carp put forth an offer, because why wouldn’t they want him back? So I suppose what I’m trying to say is, “this isn’t really hot news, yet we’re talking about it anyway because it’s November 8 and it’s something that’s happening.”
Also of note in Newman’s report is this:
Like last year, Seibu shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima will again ask his management to send him to MLB via the posting system this offseason. This year, Seibu is expected to grant his wish. Nikkan Sports keeps mentioning the Giants, Dodgers, Diamondbacks and Orioles as possibly interested teams, but it’s not clear where that information is coming from.
I’m guessing that the Dodgers come up any time a Japanese player considers America, simply because of geography and history, so it’s not clear that there’s actually any interest there – or that Nakajima will even actually be posted. In August of 2010, Newman referred to Nakajima as “Japan’s second best hitter”, yet the .297/.354/.433 he put up in 2011 was by far the worst year of his career. The Dodgers don’t need a shortstop, though you’d expect he could handle second base; on the other hand, Minnesota’s high-profile import of Tsuyoshi Nishioka to do just that this past year couldn’t have gone worse.
Let’s Just Stop With the David Wright Talk Right Now
November 7, 2011 at 10:29 am | Posted in David Wright, Juan Rivera | 42 Comments
Over the past few weeks, we’ve seen a lot of suggestions from a variety of different sources about how to improve the 2012 Dodgers, and one hole that always pops up is the enormous Juan Uribe-sized one at third base. Since Uribe can’t be trusted to perform, the hot corner is a largely barren one in the Dodger minor league system, and giving a huge long-term contract to Aramis Ramirez is hardly brilliant, people generally seem to be settling on trying to trade for David Wright, who is reportedly available for the right offer.
That’s where the conversation begins, and that’s where it should end, because as much fun as it might be to think of “Superstar David Wright” in your lineup, it’s neither plausible nor even advisable. As you’d expect from a player viewed as a cornerstone of the Mets franchise, the return to extract him would need to be sizable:
A National League executive who has spoken with Sandy Alderson recently told The News last week that the GM would have to be “bowled over” to deal Wright before next season, and a Mets person predicted that Wright’s situation would remain “status quo” until then.
Remember, the Mets don’t look likely to contend in 2012, and probably not even 2013. That means the type of deals I’ve been seeing floating around – i.e., the ones built around Andre Ethier or James Loney – are unlikely at best and laughable at worst. The Mets reportedly would want a high-end centerfielder and two good pitching prospects to even consider it, and while we can argue about how much value Chris Withrow and Ethan Martin still have (or don’t), the Dodgers definitely don’t have the centerfielder and shouldn’t be even thinking about a Zach Lee deal.
Even if the Mets somehow were convinced to take Dodger prospects for Wright over the likely-superior offers of other squads, you’d still have to figure out how to pay him. The Mets are considering moving him only to build for the future; they’re almost certainly not so motivated that they would eat a great deal of his remaining salary, which is $15m for 2012 and a $16m 2013 option that Wright would likely void if traded. Considering that the Dodgers need to acquire at least two starting pitchers and probably a catcher & an infielder, there just doesn’t seem to be room in the budget for that. Granted, I managed to find room for Prince Fielder in my 2012 plan, but that assumed Loney and his ~$6m would be non-tendered – unlikely to really happen – and Fielder is the kind of difference-maker you move pieces around for, which leads us to the main issue:
David Wright just isn’t as good as you think he is.
Oh, sure, he’s an upgrade over Uribe, and with the state of third base being what it is, he’s a better-than-average player who probably still has some good years in him. But he’s not the super-stud who put up OPS marks north of .900 every year from age 22-25. Since he peaked with a .420 wOBA in 2007, he’s been in decline in every year since – .397 (2008), .368 (2009), .364 (2010), .342 (2011). That’s still a solid player, yet not someone living up to his elite perception, as Mike Newman of Fangraphs explains:
And while I can somewhat buy the park being a factor in Wright’s diminishing returns, outfield fences have little to do with Wright’s -31.1 UZR over the past three seasons.
Even with Wright’s poor fielding, he has still been able to accumulate 9.5 WAR between 2009 and 2011. However, this leaves him sandwiched between Dodgers Casey Blake and Phillies Placido Polanco amongst true third baseman. This isn’t to say I’d prefer either to David Wright, but both Polanco and Blake earned 5.25 million in 2011 while Wright received more than two-and-a-half times as much.
And while both the Phillies and Dodgers are now looking for upgrades at the position, Wright is owed 15 million in 2012 before possibly hitting free agency the first time on the wrong side of his prime. Sure, this assessment may seem like I’m piling on the doom and gloom, but David Wright is a long ways away from the 27-plus WAR player who many viewed as a future Hall of Famer as recently as 2008.
Again, that’s still better than Uribe or anyone else the Dodgers are likely to come up with for third base in 2012. But is it worth the outlay in prospects, dollars and risk the Dodgers would have to accommodate for a one-year rental? I’m having a hard time saying that it is, so let’s focus our energies elsewhere.
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Over at Baseball Prospectus, Ben Lindbergh offers some additional thoughts on the Juan Rivera signing:
Compared to what went before him, Rivera probably looked a lot like Manny Ramirez in Don Mattingly’s eyes, but the reality was a lot less exciting. The average NL left fielder posted an OPS of 748 last season. Rivera managed only a 740 mark in Los Angeles, which—given that his OPS is an almost-identical 743 over his last four seasons—is about the best the Dodgers can hope for from the right-handed hitter, who’ll turn 34 next July. He’s always been weak against same-handed pitchers, and his work in the field does nothing to make up for his offensive inadequacies–that he’s spent significant time as a designated hitter and first baseman over the past two seasons should give you some idea of the state of his outfield skills—so the total package is that of a player who can’t be counted on to be worth more than a win. Does that sound like something that can’t be had for less than $4.5 million to anyone but LA?
Last week, R.J. Anderson observed that Chien-Ming Wang’s $4 million deal (plus incentives) was way out of line with the make-good contracts awarded to injury-prone starters during the 2010-2011 offseason. Rivera’s contract appears to be inflated by a similar amount compared to last winter’s comparable corner outfielders, such as Reed Johnson ($900,000), Marcus Thames ($1 million, and from LA, no less), Andruw Jones ($1.5 million), Matt Diaz ($2.125 million), and Jeff Francoeur ($2.5 million).
Are Wang and Rivera isolated outliers who happened to ink their deals early, or are we seeing the opening salvoes of a market gone mad? The next few weeks should tell us whether teams have dismissed concerns about the economy and decided en masse to pay more per win. If not, it will be too late for the Dodgers to get Frank McCourt’s money back. While that isn’t something that will cost their fans much sleep in itself, the knowledge that their team—despite ostensibly being on a limited budget—probably paid more than twice as much as it had to for a role player instead of using the cash to procure an experienced catcher or another useful commodity could keep them tossing and turning till spring training.
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2012 is also the 50th anniversary of Dodger Stadium, and the team will be wearing commemorative patches for the occasion. Roberto at Vin Scully is My Homeboy has a preview.
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Finally, and I think I’ve mentioned this before, M.Brown of the wonderful Left Field Pavilion is sponsoring a Dodger blog charity softball tournament on February 11 in West Covina, CA. (I think Roberto has two full teams already!) I won’t be there, but it’s for a good cause, so feel free to join in on the fun.
MSTI’s 2011 in Review: Relievers, Part 1
November 6, 2011 at 6:31 am | Posted in Javy Guerra, Scott Elbert, Vicente Padilla | 27 CommentsToday we move on to relievers, and like the rotation, these are not necessarily ordered by importance, lest I end up with a day that is only about Lance Cormier and Mike MacDougal. Today, we start with an unexpected closer, a resurgent lefty, and a crazy old man.
Javy Guerra (A+)
2.31 ERA, 3.30 FIP, 7.3 K/9, 3.5 BB/9
To say that Javy Guerra was an afterthought headed into the season is actually somewhat of an insult to afterthoughts. The only real mention Guerra got around here before the year started was when I looked at the 40-man roster crunch the Dodgers might be looking at, since they were breaking camp with so many non-roster invites, and figured that he along with John Lindsey might actually be a prime candidate for being DFA’d:
Lindsey’s the obvious choice, but if more than one spot is needed, you might also look at 25-year-old Javy Guerra, a veteran of seven minor league seasons with the Dodgers. His 2.33 ERA in 28 AA games last year may look shiny, but the 7.3 BB/9 (and 5.3 career) don’t really back it up, nor does the 1.603 career WHIP. He suffered shoulder soreness last year and then had to deal with an infection caused by a cut while washing dishes this winter. Guerra reportedly has a plus fastball, and I’m sure the Dodgers would prefer to hold onto him, but at 25, he’s no longer a kid, and his struggles at AA could make him vulnerable if a spot is needed.
That doesn’t look great for me in retrospect, though it’s hard to act as though anyone at all saw Guerra as much of an option this year. With the bullpen destroyed by injury, he got the call on May 15 as Blake Hawksworth hit the disabled list, and picked up his first big-league save just over a week later with Kenley Jansen unavailable and on his way to own disabled list trip.
Though it probably seems now that he came up and immediately took over the 9th inning, it didn’t really work out that way; he had one save in May and one in June, partially because the Dodger offense was at their low point at the time and rarely were there late leads to protect. He really took over the job in July, collecting six saves without blowing any (despite doing his best a few times), but as you can see from our midseason review, I wasn’t exactly sold on him yet:
Guerra, like MacDougal all those years ago, is a perfect example of why we shouldn’t overrate saves. For a guy who walked 6.8/9 in the minors last year and was forced to the bigs simply because of injuries, he’s been fine. He’s keeping the ball in the yard, he’s cut down on the control issues, and he’s even managed to steal a few saves while serving as the last-ditch closer. As far as debuts go, his has been a successful one. Let’s just not go overboard in anointing him as the man in the 9th inning, because he hasn’t been that good – 13 K in 19.1 IP doesn’t thrill me – and in each of his last two saves, he loaded the bases before getting out of the jam. That’s not the kind of tightrope you can walk for very long.
And had he kept up his rate of production at that point, I do believe it would have fallen apart for him. But Guerra found a way to improve. After striking out 6.1/9 before the break, he improved to 8.2/9 afterwards, lowering his OPS against from .704 to .533. In August, I had to acknowledge his success:
I also want to take the time to praise Javy Guerra, who struck out three in 1.1 scoreless innings to get his 10th save, coming in with two outs in the eighth after Mike MacDougal walked two and made a throwing error. I’ve been lukewarm on Guerra for some time, feeling that simply getting “saves” doesn’t make a pitcher any good, especially since his peripherals were iffy and his minor-league track record showed little indication of success. At the end of play of July 6, Guerra had struck out just 10 in 17.1 innings, while allowing 19 hits and five walks, good for a line of .284/.342/.343 against. In the month since, he’s appeared in 10 games with a 12/2 K/BB, allowing just five hits without an earned run. I’m still not sure that Guerra can keep this up over the long-term, but for the moment, he’s outdoing all our expectations.
Guerra, to his credit, was able to keep it up for the rest of the season, saving 21 games while blowing just two. (One of which was the ugly walkoff grand slam in Arizona in the final days of the season, after Hawksworth couldn’t hold on to a large lead or remember to cover first base.) Considering how little we thought of him entering the year, Guerra’s debut was a massive debut, one that likely cements him as the 2012 closer. Of course, since we know that saves are generally a useless stat, that does probably mean he’s a little overrated, since he’s in no way as dominant as Kenley Jansen, and he’s someone who’s near the top of my list of “possible regression dangers”. Still, as Jon Weisman rightly notes, it’s probably more effective to reserve Guerra for the 9th and have Jansen available to crush batters as needed. For Guerra, on absolutely no one’s prospect radar entering the season, it’s a role he’s earned. A+, Javy.
Scott Elbert (A+)
2.73 ERA, 2.43 FIP, 9.2 K/9, 3.8 BB/9
Believe it or not, this was Elbert’s fourth (partial) season as a Dodger, though he pitched just 26.1 innings over his first three; his debut in 2008 came just weeks after Manny Ramirez and Casey Blake joined the club.
Of course, at this time last year, we weren’t sure if we’d ever see Elbert in the big leagues again. After getting into just one game in 2010, Elbert walked away from the organization and baseball entirely, returning home for personal reasons which still haven’t been completely made public. He didn’t appear in a game after June, though he did rejoin the Dodgers and his new manager Don Mattingly in the Arizona Fall League, where he officially transitioned from starting to relieving.
Despite a nice AFL performance, we still weren’t sure what to make of him, and his initial wildness in camp seemed to indicate that he could use more seasoning, particularly after missing half of 2010:
You’ll probably hear people say that Scott Elbert punched his ticket back to the minors this afternoon in Arizona, as he walked four of the six batters he faced and managed to get just six of his 21 pitches across for strikes. That comes after a spring debut in which he walked two in one inning, meaning that he’s walked six of the ten spring batters he’s seen.
Now maybe his slow start to the spring is what’s going to get him knocked down to AAA, and maybe it’s not, but my feeling has always been that it shouldn’t matter. Unless he was able to come to camp and dominate, that always should have been the plan. And why not? He’s always had control issues, walking 5.0/9 in the minors, and last year that went up to an untenable 7.1/9. That’s of course before his well-publicized but little-understood leave of absence that meant he didn’t pitch after June.
Elbert did indeed start the year in the minors, getting recalled in mid-May when Hong-Chih Kuo went on the disabled list with anxiety issues; in his season debut, he struck out all three Diamondbacks he faced in the 8th inning on May 15. He stayed on the team for the rest of the season, though it’s hard to say he’d made much of an impression on us over the first two months, considering what I wrote in the first half review on July 12.
I know there’s been a lot of turnover in the bullpen this year, but Elbert is one of those guys where I constantly have to check if he’s still on the team or down in ABQ. I suppose that’s partially because he’s pitched just twice in the last two weeks, and partially because he’s rarely in for more than 2-3 batters at a time. As for his performance, he’s a bit of an oddity in that you’d expect a power lefty to be hell on lefty hitters, but he’s actually rocking a reverse split: lefties (.701 OPS) are actually doing more damage than righties (.561 OPS) against him. Overall, I guess you can say he’s been “acceptable”, in that he’s finally gained a foothold in the majors, but hasn’t exactly made us think he’s going to be a difference maker.
Then again, considering his mysterious disappearance at this time last year, even that is a massive step forward.
In the second half, Elbert took an even bigger step forward, contributing a 21/8 K/BB in 21.2 innings, allowing just two earned runs and a .593 OPS against. On the season, he struck out more than a man per inning while keeping his walks to an acceptable rate, important considering his history of wildness, and allowing just a single homer. The L/R split alluded to above was almost certainly the result of small sample size weirdness, since by the end of the year he’d held lefties to just an .191/.267/.250 line.
Still just 26 and despite the limited service time, Elbert is out of options, so he’s all but guaranteed a job in 2012, and could be the team’s only bullpen lefty if Kuo doesn’t return. Considering that no one was even sure if he’d have a career a year ago, that’s a fantastic turnaround.
Vicente Padilla (inc.)
4.15 ERA, 2.67 FIP, 9.3 K/9, 5.2 BB/9,
Padilla faced all of 36 batters over 8.2 innings this year, or what Clayton Kershaw does in just over one start, yet I feel like we talked about him far more than was necessary for that amount of playing time. After starting one of the weirder Dodger careers ever by going from “scrapheap pickup in August 2009″ to “Opening Day starter in 2010″ to “accidentally shooting himself”, Padilla signed a seemingly bizarre one-year deal last winter to serve as some sort of hybrid 5th starter/long man role.
Of course, he didn’t even make it out of camp before going under the knife for arm surgery; when he came back at the end of April, not only was he not a starter, he was suddenly the closer, since Jonathan Broxton was injured and no one knew who Guerra was yet.
That lasted for all of about three weeks before heading back to the disabled list with more arm discomfort. Here’s where it gets really weird, though; in early June, he had rejoined the team in Cincinnati and was expected to be activated that night. He wasn’t, and ten days later we found out that he would miss the rest of the season thanks to neck surgery, of all things. We’ve heard very little about his recovery and if he intends to resume his baseball career; Padilla has been reasonably successful in parts of three seasons as a Dodger, and I’d certainly toss him a non-roster invite for 2012. Besides, doesn’t every team need a little bit of crazy?
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Next! Matt Guerrier is still overpaid! Jonathan Broxton‘s sad farewell! And Blake Hawksworth still isn’t Ryan Theriot! It’s relievers, part 2!
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